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1987 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 (20TH ANNIV) 9 50.00%
1985 Pontiac Trans Am 5 27.78%
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS Coupe (slow lil gas saver.) 4 22.22%
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:48 AM   #1
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Exclamation Second car possiblities?

Well I will be buying a second car soon, and am wondering what you guys think of these.

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...00&cardist=100

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=62

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...=en&cardist=34

Car 1
1987 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28 (20TH ANNIV), V8, 4spd, auto, ac, pdl, p/windows, tilt, new top, paint, BFG tires, batt, Rebuilt Trans & 4Bl Carb, Blaupunkt CD, $2500

Car 2
1985 Trans Am, red racing stripes V8 144k miles, auto, T-tops, 2495$

Car 3
1992 3.1li (Gas Saver) auto, T-tops. 1900$

I personally am trying to decide between car 1 and 2 because 3 I think is just too slow for only 600$ less. The 87' Camaro looks pretty good, being a convertible, and although high milegae, most things have been rebuilt, as for the 85' Trans am the racing stripes really set that thing off and it has T-tops so it isn't as good as having a convertible, but still nice. All of these cars seem to be in good shape and have current inspections on them. I will most likely be going to see car 1 and 2 next week. Let me know what you guys think
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:35 AM   #2
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What size engine is in the '87? Because the 305 had 190hp@4000RPM, 295lb-ft@3200RPM
Autos standard was 2.73
Compression Ratio 9.3:1

I might have misunderstood something, so you might want to check this site out lol:
http://www.thirdgen.org/1987-chevy-camaro

1992 Chevrolet Camaro Coupe RS
Had 140HP, 185lb-ft of torque, fuel economy in the city was 17-18mpg and highway was 27.



http://members.tripod.com/Proformula/85ta.html

1987 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (20th Anniversary)
305 TPI = 190hp@4000RPM + weaker cam 295@3200RPM
Auto standard = 2.73
Compression ratio = 9.3:1,
http://www.thirdgen.org/1987-chevy-camaro

1992 Chevrolet Camaro Coupe RS

140HP
185lb-ft of torque
Gas Mileage:
City=17-18
Highway=27


For the 1985 Trans Am, check this site out (Not sure which engine was in it).
http://members.tripod.com/Proformula/85ta.html

Hope this stuff helps lol.
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:40 AM   #3
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What size engine is in the '87? Because the 305 had 190hp@4000RPM, 295lb-ft@3200RPM
Autos standard was 2.73
Compression Ratio 9.3:1

I might have misunderstood something, so you might want to check this site out lol:
http://www.thirdgen.org/1987-chevy-camaro

1992 Chevrolet Camaro Coupe RS
Had 140HP, 185lb-ft of torque, fuel economy in the city was 17-18mpg and highway was 27.



http://members.tripod.com/Proformula/85ta.html

1987 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 (20th Anniversary)
305 TPI = 190hp@4000RPM + weaker cam 295@3200RPM
Auto standard = 2.73
Compression ratio = 9.3:1,
http://www.thirdgen.org/1987-chevy-camaro

1992 Chevrolet Camaro Coupe RS

140HP
185lb-ft of torque
Gas Mileage:
City=17-18
Highway=27


For the 1985 Trans Am, check this site out (Not sure which engine was in it).
http://members.tripod.com/Proformula/85ta.html

Hope this stuff helps lol.

Thanks man! I think they both have 305's but I'm not sure. I'm prolly going to try and see them both this comming week and I'll keep you posted.
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Old 06-24-2006, 05:44 AM   #4
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Thanks man! I think they both have 305's but I'm not sure. I'm prolly going to try and see them both this comming week and I'll keep you posted.
Alright...I went with the Camaro, and apparently so did someone called "Littleman" who hasn't posted ever and is a member since January 2005
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Old 06-24-2006, 08:35 PM   #6
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Thanks man! I think they both have 305's but I'm not sure. I'm prolly going to try and see them both this comming week and I'll keep you posted.

they're both h code lg4 cars, so that's actually:

160hp, 250tq for the '85, and

155hp, 245tq for the '87--- according to the standard catalog of firebird...

i personally would look at the rs, because a lot of them came w/ 3.42 gears and i've heard many a tale on the f-body forums about 3.1 cars actually beating lg4 and l03 (305 tbi - 170hp, 255tq) cars....

for the gas mileage, consistency of mpfi, and the fact that they are all about the same as far as quickness, i'd vote rs. plus, if you have 2 v8 cars, you'll find yourself spending even more money upgrading both of them instead of one to modify and one to drive. i'm trying to juggle 3 cars and a 4x4 right now...
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so, in the states, the camaro 3.1 is considered a gas saver, a gas saver over here is considered 1.5
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so, in the states, the camaro 3.1 is considered a gas saver, a gas saver over here is considered 1.5

well, relative to other 3rd gen f-bodies, it's a gas saver....

1.5 is a gas saver here, too--just not in a camaro/firebird
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they're both h code lg4 cars, so that's actually:

160hp, 250tq for the '85, and

155hp, 245tq for the '87--- according to the standard catalog of firebird...

i personally would look at the rs, because a lot of them came w/ 3.42 gears and i've heard many a tale on the f-body forums about 3.1 cars actually beating lg4 and l03 (305 tbi - 170hp, 255tq) cars....

for the gas mileage, consistency of mpfi, and the fact that they are all about the same as far as quickness, i'd vote rs. plus, if you have 2 v8 cars, you'll find yourself spending even more money upgrading both of them instead of one to modify and one to drive. i'm trying to juggle 3 cars and a 4x4 right now...

EDIT: on a side note none has voted for the 85' Trans am yet lol, I think I am defn going to go see both cars before i make a decision, but the Trans Am is only 1500$cash at a dealership, but the 87' Camaro there were only 1k produced... so I dunno I'm going to try and hook up with the guys next week. Thanks for all the opinion.s

Yeah but the RS 3.1li is only 140hp and 180 torque. I don't think I want to be that sluggish for only about 3miles more per gallon. I was looking at a 94' Z28 6 speed with t tops, high mileage but I think it is out of my price range, it's on ebay right now. I think I will take a look at the 85. And also the second car I get would mostly be stock with the exception of maybe a nice exhaust, other then that I would only modify the Mustang.
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EDIT: on a side note none has voted for the 85' Trans am yet lol, I think I am defn going to go see both cars before i make a decision, but the Trans Am is only 1500$cash at a dealership, but the 87' Camaro there were only 1k produced... so I dunno I'm going to try and hook up with the guys next week. Thanks for all the opinion.s

Yeah but the RS 3.1li is only 140hp and 180 torque. I don't think I want to be that sluggish for only about 3miles more per gallon. I was looking at a 94' Z28 6 speed with t tops, high mileage but I think it is out of my price range, it's on ebay right now. I think I will take a look at the 85. And also the second car I get would mostly be stock with the exception of maybe a nice exhaust, other then that I would only modify the Mustang.

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they are all about the same as far as quickness

i'm saying just drive the 3.1 once after driving the lg4 cars. you will most likely be surprised, based on your current mindset. lg4 cars are not fast stock.
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I voted for the '87 Camaro, before viewing the mileage, I would probably steer towards the Pontiac after having seen the mileage on the Camaro (I'm assuming it's miles rather than Killometres?)
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i'm saying just drive the 3.1 once after driving the lg4 cars. you will most likely be surprised, based on your current mindset. lg4 cars are not fast stock.

I did read what you had said but come on, I can't see a car with 140hp and 180 torque being able to compare to cars with 160hp and 260 torque? I know they aren't fast stock but I think they are faster than the RS. I dunno I'm gonnna go do some more research, but like I siad I will prolly go see the 2 in person next week and if neither look that great I will go take a look at the Rs.


Yes Cliffy those are miles but everything from the tranny to the engine has been rebuilt on it so it isn't tooo bad, but I am going to find out more info before I buy something with that many miles.

So far this is the closest 1/4 time

1993 Chevrolet Camaro V-6 9.0 16.6

1985 Pontiac Trans Am (Hot Rod Magazine)

Specs:
Performance:

Engine: 305ci (5.0L HO "L-69"), 9.5:1 Compression Ratio, Rochester 4 BBL, HP: 190, TQ: 240

Drivetrain: 5 Speed Manual Transmission, 3.73:1 Rear Axle.
1/4 mile: 15.30 @ 92.41 MPH

Skid Pad: .92g

Granted that 85' trans am is a 5 speed, but I doubt the auto will slow it down by 1.3 seconds.

Edit: Can't find any on the 87' Camaro but all the Camaro's around there are in the low 15's.
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i voted for the 85 trans am, not knowing what it looks like or performs but reading about it, sounds like its in better condition
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i voted for the 85 trans am, not knowing what it looks like or performs but reading about it, sounds like its in better condition

If you click the link I posted in my first post you can see what it looks like, white with red racing stripes, not to bad.
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i didnt bother to be honest but ive had a look, and to be truthful, that doesnt look like an 85, that does look good though!!!

id pick that one!!!
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