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Old 04-05-2004, 10:22 PM   #1
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I have been thinking and looking into a prelude, I am leaving for basic training and will be comming home with about $2600 in the fall to put as either a down payment on a car ( keep in mind I have no credit and no co-signer but with a $2600 down I shouldnt have a problem picking up a $6000 car right ??? ) anyways, the preludes seem to be a little on the pricey side but there are other things that are possibilities. I am looking for advice on the best car that I can give a very nice turn around into a clean cut car, I wouldnt want to modify it heavily but I want to come out with 250-300HP total ... I want it to look hot but clean, I am not into some of the tacky things people put on there cars, and I want a car that can be taken seriously, not some neon or geo crap, honda, toyota, nissan, mazda etc etc. as stated before I want to pick up a car for about $5000-6000 and work on it piece by piece, I just need input on what I can get and what to put to get the looks and power I want. I have seen stories in magazines such as super street ... it was an artical about a guy who picked up a 1995 240sx with lower mileage for $5500 dollars, and now it is a clean cut machine, he has chameleon paint, wing, exhaust ( all the basics ) but he turned that cheaper car into an animal, I want to keep things as simple as possible so for what car you guide me to and what for parts you guide me to, I want to spend as little as possible to achieve the 250-300HP mark. HELP.
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Old 04-05-2004, 10:33 PM   #2
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$2,600.00...is that military pay now? I came home with $700.00 in 1989...damn pay has gone up a bit...
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Old 04-05-2004, 11:32 PM   #3
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LoL Bav, I figured that'd get edited.

Anyways, you want to spend 6000$? What year of prelude? How much would you have to spare for mods? If this is a slow progress of upgrading, I would just look on the internet.

Answer those 3 questions and I will give ya as much help as possible.
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Old 04-06-2004, 05:24 AM   #4
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Well first of all bav, I will be comming home with about $2000 after taxes, isnt that a bunch of bull$*@&, we are off training to protect this countries freedom and we have to pay taxes, WOW. Ok, well I will have about $2600.00 including some spare cash I have, I am not looking for a prelude in specific but if I had the $10,000-$14,000 to get a 1997-2001 then I would do that in a heart beat but my financial situation just doesnt allow it... I have no credit and no co-signer or anyone to lend me money so I am out of luck on getting something through that method, I went to one of those inhouse financing dealerships but man are they expensive ! over charge and 17.9 % intrest, that is what it costs for someone who has NO credit. anyways, they had a few cars that were decent, a 1997 Audi A4 1.8T Quattro with 113,069 miles on it for $10,900 ahaha OUTRAGEOUS, it books for like $8,250.00 . I would be able to go that route ( the dealership that finances anyone ) and pay up the a$$ and get something better and have about $1500 just in spare cash to do some simple things and then the rest over time ... or I could take the $2600.00 to my credit union and find a car for $6,000.00 or so, I doubt I would get approved for anything more then that amount, and then slowly do things to it, I am just wondering what I should do, what I should get for that and what plans I should have for the car I do get, but then there IS eBay, where I could get something a hell of alot more decent for $6,000 then I could on private sale, in the end I dont want to spend years and years on the car, I like the simplistic style of a faster car with ponies but the clean cut look, like that BMW bav has the pic of, something no one would expect, I want 250-300HP when I am finished, I can live with that, but I also need the steps I should take to get the car looking how and how I want I am sure you realize that what car I do get would probobly have over 100,000 miles, how much does that matter? because I have seen hot cars before and then looked at the odometer and by the time the people got the car finished it has 182,000 miles on it, and it just totally takes the good feeling away, I just need to know what I should get, something respected like I said, No neons or escorts or any $*it like that, I cant stand seein a 4 door neon with a wing, one of those cheap dual prong mufflers from the local autoshop, I want my car to have some status, be original, etc etc. I really take inspiration to those stories you read of someone who bought a early 90s car and turned it into an animal, I want my car to be in IMaculate shape when I am done with it, no dings, scratches, etc etc, I think that makes a car a car, the condition, and yes I completely understand it may not be in that shape at all for the price I pay, but help me out with what I should get and how the process should be as far as what to take care of first, I am very serious about making the car my pride.
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Old 04-06-2004, 05:39 AM   #5
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I was thinking a pre 1992 Prelude SI 5 Speed, or a 1992-1996 type Prelude, I have driven two of those ( 1992 and a 1994 both automatic ) and they were responsive as hell, great handling but they were both automatics, I wasnt looking to buy but a family friend had one so I took it out and it was nice, although the rear seat space has just enough room for, something a big as ummm a cat, haha. the 1990-1991 style looks a bit more driver friendly but I have never driven one and they dont look as good by far, but my biggest concern is mileage, I can get one but some of these cars have 140,000 to 160,000 on them. I mean what is your opinion on mileage, and as far as getting 250-300 HP out of a 90-91 Prelude SI, or a 1992-96 Prelude SI, what would that take, what is your opinion on superchargers VS turbo?
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Old 04-06-2004, 12:42 PM   #6
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I was thinking a pre 1992 Prelude SI 5 Speed, or a 1992-1996 type Prelude, I have driven two of those ( 1992 and a 1994 both automatic ) and they were responsive as hell, great handling but they were both automatics, I wasnt looking to buy but a family friend had one so I took it out and it was nice, although the rear seat space has just enough room for, something a big as ummm a cat, haha. the 1990-1991 style looks a bit more driver friendly but I have never driven one and they dont look as good by far, but my biggest concern is mileage, I can get one but some of these cars have 140,000 to 160,000 on them. I mean what is your opinion on mileage, and as far as getting 250-300 HP out of a 90-91 Prelude SI, or a 1992-96 Prelude SI, what would that take, what is your opinion on superchargers VS turbo?
Let me step in here and make one quick observation. You want to take a ricemobile and modify it to produce 250-300 hp and in almost the same breath you're worried about fuel mileage. Now read that last sentence again and tell me that you can't see those as two opposing goals.

As a side note, I hope you LOVE heat and humidity. That's exactly what you're going to get at Ft Jackson this time of year.
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Old 04-06-2004, 02:26 PM   #7
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I am talking about Odometer mileage, mileage on the car etc etc. I could care less about fuel mileage, I know all about Ft. Jackson, it will suck but anyways I am looking for genuine assistance, not someone to comment about something I said. I need help with the car issues, not how I phrase things
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Old 04-06-2004, 05:06 PM   #8
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Well first of all bav, I will be comming home with about $2000 after taxes, isnt that a bunch of bull$*@&, we are off training to protect this countries freedom and we have to pay taxes, WOW.

OT...No it's not a bunch of "bull$*@&." You will be living the life of a college boy and getting paid for it. (minus the cool clothes and freedom) I highly doubt that the protection of "our" country was what you had in mind when you signed up for grunt duty! I know for sure it wasn't on mine! Further more...you are getting paid for a service. You're not "protecting" the country for free. (are you?) Now start brushing up on this phonetic sound..."HOO-RAA"...It'll be your means of communication for the next 4 years or so. It matches the Army mind set.

About my sig pic...you're right...this vehicle is unsuspecting to the ignorant eye! Especially to all those rice-mobiles...
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:12 PM   #9
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Tell me about it, I want to know the story on that car and what it took to get it where it is now, I would love to do something like that, its clean, sleeper and beautiful, I want to know everything so please share with me.
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Old 04-06-2004, 07:24 PM   #10
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Tell me about it, I want to know the story on that car and what it took to get it where it is now, I would love to do something like that, its clean, sleeper and beautiful, I want to know everything so please share with me.

It is not mine...it is my "Fart Cannon Dream" car.
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It is not mine...it is my "Fart Cannon Dream" car.
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What are the specs of your "Fart Cannon Dream" car?
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What are the specs of your "Fart Cannon Dream" car?

Stock Euro Spec. E28 M5:


Standing Mile 14.6sec Terminal speed 95.7mph

Displacement 3453cc

Bore 93.4mm

Stroke 84.0mm

Compression Ratio 10.5:1

Max Power 286bhp @6500rpm

Max Torque 250lb ft @4500rpm

BHP Per litre 82.7

Fuel System Bosch Motronic electronic injection & engine management

Cylinders Cast Iron block, seven main bearings

Cylinder Head Light Alloy, DOHC, four valves per cylinder

Gearbox 5 Speed manual

Final drive ratio 3.7:1 (25% LSD)

Clutch Single dry plate

Front Suspension MacPherson struts, double links, coil springs & gas dampers, anti roll bar.

Rear Suspension Semi-trailing arms, control links, coil springs & gas dampers anti roll bar.

Brakes Ventilated discs all round, 11.8in front with four-pot calipers & 10.7in rear. Servo assisted.

Wheels & Tires 220/55VR 390 Michelin TRX tires on 165TR390 alloy

Unladen weight 3153Ib

Wheelbase 103.3in

Turning circle 33ft

Fuel tank capacity 70 Litres/15.4 Gals


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Old 04-21-2004, 09:17 AM   #13
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If I had $2,600 I would get an 87-90 Toyota Supra, It has a ton of potential, they are not that common, and the have a V-6. Not to mention a ton of aftermarket support.
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Old 04-21-2004, 10:12 PM   #14
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*whips out ebonics dictionary.... fart cannon.... "WORD NOT FOUND" wtf wtf
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*whips out ebonics dictionary.... fart cannon.... "WORD NOT FOUND" wtf wtf

Hence the quotation marks. Keep trying though.
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