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Old 09-17-2006, 08:45 PM   #1
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yeah... im mad...

ok, i know that there are quite a few non-americans on this forum (at least i think so) and i apologize and i realize you may not care.
i came across this band today called anti flag. and if i do say so myself they are one of the worst and most cowardly bands in the entire world. the bassis and "purpose" of their music is to say how the US govt is a lie and that it is the worst thing in the world. now, this is comming from a proud American citizen that has many many people in his family that were in and still are in the Armed forces. a number of those people were in the US Marines. here are some excerpts from one of their songs...

"You've gotta die, gotta die, gotta die for your government?
Die for your country? That's shit!"

"There's a Gulf War vet, dying a slow, cold death
And the government says, "We don't know the source of his sickness."
But don't believe what they say, because your government is lying
They've done it before and don't you know they'll do it again
A secret test, government built virus
"Subject Test Group: Gulf Battle Field Troops""

"First World War veterans slaughtered, by General Eisenhower
You give them your life, they give you a stab in the back
Radiation, agent orange, tested on US souls
Guinea pigs for Western corporations
I never have, I never will
Pledge allegiance to their flag
You're getting used, you'll end up dead"



so, if you are an American on this thread, please tell me whether you think this band is "speaking the truth" or not.

in my opinion, these bastards should be glad that they at least live in a country that actualy allows them to have this type of music. i dont quite think that they realize how good they have it here.
they dont realize that if they were to go nd live in another country and find "faults" in the other countries govt and they started to sing about it... the dont realize that they would most likely be executed because of treason to their govt... god i hate ignorant people, the people that live where they really do have it free, and its right infront of their damn face but they cant see it

oh, and apparently, they say that saluting the flag and saying the pledge of alliegence is cowardly...
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:52 PM   #2
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Wow. I've heard of them but for some reason it never occurred to me that their name referred to the US flag.

This country is what allows them to MAKE shitty music insulting our government. Go try that in Iran. You will be arrested on sight. (I am Iranian)

What hypocrites...
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:59 PM   #3
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not really music anymore is it?

i used to think rap wasnt music until I started hearing all this Fuc*ed up shit
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:12 PM   #4
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THANK YOU! im not alone in thinking that these "punk" bands are the worst thing in the USA
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:19 PM   #5
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THANK YOU! im not alone in thinking that these "punk" bands are the worst thing in the USA


no offense but I think your hard up scream music is just as bad

but im sure plenty of people dont like things I love
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:22 PM   #6
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I LOVE punk, Anti-Flag is good, just retarded lyrics as is most music
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:41 PM   #7
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no offense but I think your hard up scream music is just as bad

but im sure plenty of people dont like things I love

yes, i will admit that my type of music isnt for everyone, and im not trying to go around saying that everyone should listen to my music or they should like a certain type of thing. but when "music" starts to down the country that you live in (sespecialy with me because i have so many members of my family and close friends that are in the military) thats when it just goes wayy too far
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yes, i will admit that my type of music isnt for everyone, and im not trying to go around saying that everyone should listen to my music or they should like a certain type of thing. but when "music" starts to down the country that you live in (sespecialy with me because i have so many members of my family and close friends that are in the military) thats when it just goes wayy too far

I totally agree

and im canadian eh

or should I say, Newfoundlander By
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Old 09-17-2006, 10:09 PM   #9
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I do not agree with anything they say, however since they are in America, then they do have the freedom of speech. You don't agree with them? That's fine, neither do I. But you are not forced to listen to them.
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I do not agree with anything they say, however since they are in America, then they do have the freedom of speech. You don't agree with them? That's fine, neither do I. But you are not forced to listen to them.
That's true too.
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i havnt heard of anti flag or whatever theyre called! maybe they havnt reached the english shores yet???
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I take it they don't teach history in the US? Eisenhower was not directing troops in the first world war, was he?

Insofar as the band and their lyrics, well this type of stuff has been around since Adam was a boy, no biggie really.

And there are lots of countries out there that aren't oppressive regimes that allow freedom of expression....it's not the preserve of the USA. In fact I think you may find US citizens don't necessarily get as many freedoms and quality of life conditions as say, we downunder do.
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..........In fact I think you may find US citizens don't necessarily get as many freedoms and quality of life conditions as say, we downunder do.
like?????
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Well like the health systems, welfare systems, voting systems, education , etc
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Well like the health systems, welfare systems, voting systems, education , etc
i getcha!!!
our (england) health system (NHS) is the best in the world (apparently) and i dont know about the rest! apart from the fact that nealry everyone in england votes for labour, and labour are always the ones who bring england down, tony blair did well, first, but didnt quite meet his ambitions (in my opinion)
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