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Old 12-01-2005, 05:33 PM   #1
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The idea of this thread is to aid those folks who have or may be experiencing some problems with their computers. I invite any and all to participate in this thread for the goal is to learn as a group how to address certain problems. (To those I may have offended earlier, I welcome them to post as well) As a disclaimer, I would like to state that we are all capable of making our own decisions in life, nobody else has that power. So with that in mind, if you choose to follow advice, and you computer is left in a state worse than once it began, you have been warned. Do not accuse or chastise those that are willingly trying to assist you with your dilemma.

So, I have had a couple questions on maintenance of a PC, and while I cannot be there in person to help and I don not have all the answers, I thought I would post some basics to assist others with there problems.

With a computer that runs to slow, the first thing I always do is take a look at what I am up against. For example:

1. Hit “Alt+Ctrl+Delete” to bring up the task manager. Now I have taken a picture of mine, in this case I have several running programs right now, but when you first turn on the PC and haven’t touched it yet, this number should almost never be over 30



Now after one semester of school, when I looked at my sis’ new machine, she had 74, that is not good. Almost ever new machine out there is going to have 3rd party programs running, most new machines like a Gateway, HP/Compaq, Sony…. are going to have 40-50 running programs fresh out of the box. Toshiba is worse, generally 60+


2. Go to Start->Run-> type “msconfig” From here, you can see many programs that are running at startup (not all) You can get a good idea of what needs to go from here. I usually will deselect almost everything, because they are unessential. (it depends, not all programs are a problem) to do this well, a good Reg editor is great From here, you can also access the “regedit” The registry editor, but that is something for later if needed.



3. Congrats, so far the computer hasn’t blown up yet. Ok, so something that will drain your resources, Norton Internet Security. Ok I may sound like a hypocrite because I run it myself, but it is a real hog. What you need is a good antivirus program, Symantec (Norton) or PC-Cillin is what I recommend. (PC-Cillin uses fewer resources) I also recommend a good anti-spyware program. I use 4 (Adaware, Spybot, Microsoft anti-spyware beta, and SpySweeper) Of them I really suggest the SpySweeper, is like $30 and really worth it, PC world magazine rates it #1 at detection and removal and the realtime protection is amazing.


4. This is where I will stop for now, the rest is more on an individual basis. After “cleaning up” I recommend getting this program: HiJackThis . From here you can do A LOT but it can be more dangerous to your PC… once you get here, post you log as a Notepad file that can be downloaded and I or others will review.

There are millions of ways to fix PC’s, this is very basic but a start. Any questions, please ask, chances are someone here has encountered it. Also as a side note, I believe reformatting to be the lazy way out. I personally have only done it once in my years of being a PC owner, and I have F’up a few times. Normally you can always find a way to work things out, I hold reformatting to be a last ditch option.

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Old 12-02-2005, 05:08 AM   #2
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The idea of this thread is to aid those folks who have or may be experiencing some problems with their computers. I invite any and all to participate in this thread for the goal is to learn as a group how to address certain problems. (To those I may have offended earlier, I welcome them to post as well) As a disclaimer, I would like to state that we are all capable of making our own decisions in life, nobody else has that power. So with that in mind, if you choose to follow advice, and you computer is left in a state worse than once it began, you have been warned. Do not accuse or chastise those that are willingly trying to assist you with your dilemma.

So, I have had a couple questions on maintenance of a PC, and while I cannot be there in person to help and I don not have all the answers, I thought I would post some basics to assist others with there problems.

With a computer that runs to slow, the first thing I always do is take a look at what I am up against. For example:

1. Hit “Alt+Ctrl+Delete” to bring up the task manager. Now I have taken a picture of mine, in this case I have several running programs right now, but when you first turn on the PC and haven’t touched it yet, this number should almost never be over 30



Now after one semester of school, when I looked at my sis’ new machine, she had 74, that is not good. Almost ever new machine out there is going to have 3rd party programs running, most new machines like a Gateway, HP/Compaq, Sony…. are going to have 40-50 running programs fresh out of the box. Toshiba is worse, generally 60+


2. Go to Start->Run-> type “msconfig” From here, you can see many programs that are running at startup (not all) You can get a good idea of what needs to go from here. I usually will deselect almost everything, because they are unessential. (it depends, not all programs are a problem) to do this well, a good Reg editor is great From here, you can also access the “regedit” The registry editor, but that is something for later if needed.



3. Congrats, so far the computer hasn’t blown up yet. Ok, so something that will drain your resources, Norton Internet Security. Ok I may sound like a hypocrite because I run it myself, but it is a real hog. What you need is a good antivirus program, Symantec (Norton) or PC-Cillin is what I recommend. (PC-Cillin uses fewer resources) I also recommend a good anti-spyware program. I use 4 (Adaware, Spybot, Microsoft anti-spyware beta, and SpySweeper) Of them I really suggest the SpySweeper, is like $30 and really worth it, PC world magazine rates it #1 at detection and removal and the realtime protection is amazing.


4. This is where I will stop for now, the rest is more on an individual basis. After “cleaning up” I recommend getting this program: HiJackThis . From here you can do A LOT but it can be more dangerous to your PC… once you get here, post you log as a Notepad file that can be downloaded and I or others will review.

There are millions of ways to fix PC’s, this is very basic but a start. Any questions, please ask, chances are someone here has encountered it. Also as a side note, I believe reformatting to be the lazy way out. I personally have only done it once in my years of being a PC owner, and I have F’up a few times. Normally you can always find a way to work things out, I hold reformatting to be a last ditch option.

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I have a few things to say on this topic. First thing i noticed you had steam on your desktop (counterstrike much? lol). Second off i noticed you said msconfig. Never and i mean NEVER tell anyone unexperienced to go there. That is a HUGE accident waiting to happen. I personally advice everyone who is just a little bit uncertain on what he means to not absolutely ignore steps 2-4. Your major mistake is that you don't go into msconfig and "deselect" everything for your start-up's you go into something called "safe-mode' and carefully read every program and decide it's worth and value. Programs in themselves can be kept from starting-up as you described. No offence man but giving advice to computer illiterates is very dangerous. There is nothing wrong with not knowing a lot about computers. If you only need it to go on google myspace and play a video game or two while going on AIM. Burn a disk from i-tunes. You don't need to know how to Prong in Ms-Dos exactly.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:16 AM   #3
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I do have a good deal of computer knowledge however I'm not quite sure if you can do this or not but I've seen my friend do it. Am I able to run the mac os on my computer. I've seen my friend use that and linux but I never really asked him how to do it so can somebody help me. But I do agree at the fact that don't go into msconfig to solve a problem.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:36 AM   #4
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The idea of this thread is to aid those folks who have or may be experiencing some problems with their computers. I invite any and all to participate in this thread for the goal is to learn as a group how to address certain problems. (To those I may have offended earlier, I welcome them to post as well) As a disclaimer, I would like to state that we are all capable of making our own decisions in life, nobody else has that power. So with that in mind, if you choose to follow advice, and you computer is left in a state worse than once it began, you have been warned. Do not accuse or chastise those that are willingly trying to assist you with your dilemma.

So, I have had a couple questions on maintenance of a PC, and while I cannot be there in person to help and I don not have all the answers, I thought I would post some basics to assist others with there problems.

With a computer that runs to slow, the first thing I always do is take a look at what I am up against. For example:

1. Hit “Alt+Ctrl+Delete” to bring up the task manager. Now I have taken a picture of mine, in this case I have several running programs right now, but when you first turn on the PC and haven’t touched it yet, this number should almost never be over 30



Now after one semester of school, when I looked at my sis’ new machine, she had 74, that is not good. Almost ever new machine out there is going to have 3rd party programs running, most new machines like a Gateway, HP/Compaq, Sony…. are going to have 40-50 running programs fresh out of the box. Toshiba is worse, generally 60+


2. Go to Start->Run-> type “msconfig” From here, you can see many programs that are running at startup (not all) You can get a good idea of what needs to go from here. I usually will deselect almost everything, because they are unessential. (it depends, not all programs are a problem) to do this well, a good Reg editor is great From here, you can also access the “regedit” The registry editor, but that is something for later if needed.



3. Congrats, so far the computer hasn’t blown up yet. Ok, so something that will drain your resources, Norton Internet Security. Ok I may sound like a hypocrite because I run it myself, but it is a real hog. What you need is a good antivirus program, Symantec (Norton) or PC-Cillin is what I recommend. (PC-Cillin uses fewer resources) I also recommend a good anti-spyware program. I use 4 (Adaware, Spybot, Microsoft anti-spyware beta, and SpySweeper) Of them I really suggest the SpySweeper, is like $30 and really worth it, PC world magazine rates it #1 at detection and removal and the realtime protection is amazing.


4. This is where I will stop for now, the rest is more on an individual basis. After “cleaning up” I recommend getting this program: HiJackThis . From here you can do A LOT but it can be more dangerous to your PC… once you get here, post you log as a Notepad file that can be downloaded and I or others will review.

There are millions of ways to fix PC’s, this is very basic but a start. Any questions, please ask, chances are someone here has encountered it. Also as a side note, I believe reformatting to be the lazy way out. I personally have only done it once in my years of being a PC owner, and I have F’up a few times. Normally you can always find a way to work things out, I hold reformatting to be a last ditch option.

~ Voda


I've got a problem, and since I'm a hard-ware only guy I think some outside help will be, well, helpful. Ever since I moved to my Apartment I started to use the apartments Free Ethernet internet (think it's T1). It started off EXTREMELY fast (like 200-300kb/s DL speeds) and now it's PAINFULLY slow, but it seems like it's only MY computer that does this. Now I'm lucky to get 20kb/s DL speeds, most of the time I get between 5-15kb/s. I have no idea what the problem is, my HD is far from full (80 gig drive with 60 gigs free), and my memory is fine (512mb DDR). I dont really multi-task at all, maybe have netscape and limeiwre open at once, but that's it. So, what gives? I thought of getting Norton Cleansweep and running that to help a little, there's no virus on my computer as I've run two different virus scans...So yeah, help is appreciated.
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Old 12-02-2005, 05:54 AM   #5
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I have a few things to say on this topic. First thing i noticed you had steam on your desktop (counterstrike much? lol). Second off i noticed you said msconfig. Never and i mean NEVER tell anyone unexperienced to go there. That is a HUGE accident waiting to happen. I personally advice everyone who is just a little bit uncertain on what he means to not absolutely ignore steps 2-4. Your major mistake is that you don't go into msconfig and "deselect" everything for your start-up's you go into something called "safe-mode' and carefully read every program and decide it's worth and value. Programs in themselves can be kept from starting-up as you described. No offence man but giving advice to computer illiterates is very dangerous. There is nothing wrong with not knowing a lot about computers. If you only need it to go on google myspace and play a video game or two while going on AIM. Burn a disk from i-tunes. You don't need to know how to Prong in Ms-Dos exactly.
I counter, the only thing not to remove in msconfig is ccApp, that is essential for Norton, ie can't run w/o it. Something like that I would not remove however, the others..... most of the "necessary" device drivers are hidden form msconfig (aka your compuer will run just fine), you don't have to worry crap loads about it. Open it up take a picture, or just go and check each one out online, I have a million times. Most often you will see that they are inconsiqunial (sp), that is why I have advised caution, but it is still safe to do. Worse case senario is you turn it back on.

Hijackthis however is a differnet story.... notice how I didnt go into depth
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I've got a problem, and since I'm a hard-ware only guy I think some outside help will be, well, helpful. Ever since I moved to my Apartment I started to use the apartments Free Ethernet internet (think it's T1). It started off EXTREMELY fast (like 200-300kb/s DL speeds) and now it's PAINFULLY slow, but it seems like it's only MY computer that does this. Now I'm lucky to get 20kb/s DL speeds, most of the time I get between 5-15kb/s. I have no idea what the problem is, my HD is far from full (80 gig drive with 60 gigs free), and my memory is fine (512mb DDR). I dont really multi-task at all, maybe have netscape and limeiwre open at once, but that's it. So, what gives? I thought of getting Norton Cleansweep and running that to help a little, there's no virus on my computer as I've run two different virus scans...So yeah, help is appreciated.



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took me a while but I remember having one of these threads a while back so lets see if someone can help me here. I downloaded itunes 7.0.2 and when I clcik on it I get this error message:

The windows installer service could not be accessed. This can occur if Windows is running in safe mode or if the Windows installer is not correctly installed.

Any suggestions i redownloaded and it's not running in safe mode so i don't know.
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took me a while but I remember having one of these threads a while back so lets see if someone can help me here. I downloaded itunes 7.0.2 and when I clcik on it I get this error message:

The windows installer service could not be accessed. This can occur if Windows is running in safe mode or if the Windows installer is not correctly installed.

Any suggestions i redownloaded and it's not running in safe mode so i don't know.
Go to Start>Run>type "msconfig.exe" without the quotation marks. Click on the "Services" tab, and find "Windows installer." Make sure that there is a check mark next to it. If there already was, close it and go back to Start and this time run "services.msc" again, find where it says Windows Installer, right click, go to properties, go to the logon tab and find where it says "Hardware Profile Service" it should say something like "Profile 1". Make sure that all profiles are enabled. One of those should help.

I've got a small problem, but let's see if anyone can help with this...I was looking for Microsoft Office Keygens in Google (I know it's a bad idea)...And found one, turns out it was a virus. I can end most of it from the task manager, but they seem to start up on their own...I scanned with McAfee once, and it froze up so I'm trying it again. Not sure what the virus is, but it gives me tons of pop-ups for "virus busters" and a little Windows bubble in the corner saying "Critical System Errors". The annoying thing is that I just reinstalled my Windows yesterday and it had no viruses then. Thanks in advance for anyone that can help.
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Go to Start>Run>type "msconfig.exe" without the quotation marks. Click on the "Services" tab, and find "Windows installer." Make sure that there is a check mark next to it. If there already was, close it and go back to Start and this time run "services.msc" again, find where it says Windows Installer, right click, go to properties, go to the logon tab and find where it says "Hardware Profile Service" it should say something like "Profile 1". Make sure that all profiles are enabled. One of those should help.

I've got a small problem, but let's see if anyone can help with this...I was looking for Microsoft Office Keygens in Google (I know it's a bad idea)...And found one, turns out it was a virus. I can end most of it from the task manager, but they seem to start up on their own...I scanned with McAfee once, and it froze up so I'm trying it again. Not sure what the virus is, but it gives me tons of pop-ups for "virus busters" and a little Windows bubble in the corner saying "Critical System Errors". The annoying thing is that I just reinstalled my Windows yesterday and it had no viruses then. Thanks in advance for anyone that can help.

Well I dont know for the virus part but i can give you ms office. Lemme know.
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Well I dont know for the virus part but i can give you ms office. Lemme know.
I'll look around for any other ways to activate Office (It won't let me activate by phone) or just get another one. Thanks anyways though.

I figured out how to stop the virus...Just deleted all of the files that it was using lol.
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Alright chris I tried your ways i even clicked start on the services part and it says the path canno be specified when it's right there. Gawd I want to install itunes.
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I have a few things to say on this topic. First thing i noticed you had steam on your desktop (counterstrike much? lol). Second off i noticed you said msconfig. Never and i mean NEVER tell anyone unexperienced to go there. That is a HUGE accident waiting to happen. I personally advice everyone who is just a little bit uncertain on what he means to not absolutely ignore steps 2-4. Your major mistake is that you don't go into msconfig and "deselect" everything for your start-up's you go into something called "safe-mode' and carefully read every program and decide it's worth and value. Programs in themselves can be kept from starting-up as you described. No offence man but giving advice to computer illiterates is very dangerous. There is nothing wrong with not knowing a lot about computers. If you only need it to go on google myspace and play a video game or two while going on AIM. Burn a disk from i-tunes. You don't need to know how to Prong in Ms-Dos exactly.

You b!tch like a mom, you wanna talk "VERY DANGEROUS" go to the repair thread and read some of the crap that comes outa most of these peoples mouths that are fixing thier own brakes..... i mean really the only way for computer illiterates to learn is either pickup a book and read or be lazy and learn from screwing up. at least in nerd world screwing up isnt the difference between STOPPING before you slam into a van with a family in it and not stopping, i say let em have at it whats the worst they do, have to bring it to a real computer tech.
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