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Old 02-09-2007, 06:31 AM   #1
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toyota to buy out subaru

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Changes to Japanís antitrust laws has leaves the path open for industry giant Toyota to take over Fuji Heavy Industries, the parent company of Subaru. Toyota has owned an 8.7% stake of Fuji Heavy since October 2005 but according to analysts, the company always wanted a controlling stake but couldnít due to the antitrust laws at the time. According to Automotive News, combined sales of Toyota and Fuji Heavy comprised 45.6% of the Japanese domestic market in 2006.

Under the previous antitrust rules, no company could control 50% of the Japanese market for any product, but the new rulings will look at global market share instead when reviewing mergers and acquisitions. The changes are designed to strengthen Japanese companiesí competitiveness on world markets, but wonít take effect until the 1st of April. Toyota taking a controlling stake in Fuji Heavy is sure to bring that number one automaker spot ever closer to the Japanese giant. We also hope that Toyota will take advantage of Subaruís expertise in AWD and performance cars and apply them to future models. Subaru could definitely add some spice to the normally staid Toyota lineup.




Apparently, subaru is owned by a company called FHI (Fujitsu Heavy Industries) which deals in shipping and heavy equipment and this may be the main incentive for the move.


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Old 02-09-2007, 06:36 AM   #2
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I thought Subaru was owned by GM...Either way, I think both Subaru and Toyota could have a positive effect on each other.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:44 AM   #3
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I thought Subaru was owned by GM...Either way, I think both Subaru and Toyota could have a positive effect on each other.
Either toyota will become cool, or subaru will be driven by everyone looking for a general car. Toyota makes good cars, but the only people around here that drive them are from India, and there are my parents. It could be good, could be bad.

BTW I am not sure who is owned by who, but I am pretty sure Subaru is a Japanese brand.
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Old 02-09-2007, 06:47 AM   #4
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Either Toyota will become cool, or Subaru will be driven by everyone looking for a general car. Toyota makes good cars, but the only people around here that drive them are from India, and there are my parents. It could be good, could be bad.

BTW I am not sure who is owned by who, but I am pretty sure Subaru is a Japanese brand.
Subaru is Japanese, but that doesn't make a difference...Volvo is owned by Ford, but it's still a Swedish brand.
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I thought Subaru was owned by GM...Either way, I think both Subaru and Toyota could have a positive effect on each other.
GM used to own a fair amount of Fuji Heavy Industries, but sold it a few years ago (that's why there aren't gonna be any more Saabarus).

Subaru, well Fuji, is it's own company... well I guess not really anymore.

Should be interesting to see what happens. I really love both companies so it should really be a perfect match. Maybe Toyota can fix the STI designs, let's pray.
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i got this off Wikipedia---It is currently an affiliate of Toyota Motor Corporation, with them owning 8.7% of FHI. They acquired that stake from General Motors, who bought 20% of FHI in 1999 to have an extended presence in international markets, and collaborate technologically with FHI.

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Old 02-09-2007, 04:56 PM   #7
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I cant see subaru making toyota "spicy"

I can totally see a Wrx STi hybrid
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i got this off Wikipedia---It is currently an affiliate of Toyota Motor Corporation, with them owning 8.7% of FHI. They acquired that stake from General Motors, who bought 20% of FHI in 1999 to have an extended presence in international markets, and collaborate technologically with FHI.

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That's what the article is about. Toyota owns 8.7% but could not take control over the company due to Japanese anti-trust laws.


It is in toyota's best interest to try to give subaru a different image than toyota has. You don't want the two to directly compete.
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I cant see subaru making toyota "spicy"

I can totally see a Wrx STi hybrid
that'll just ruin thier reputation of being a good performance saloon! a boxer that switches into electric mode under 30mph! nah, wont like it!
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that'll just ruin thier reputation of being a good performance saloon! a boxer that switches into electric mode under 30mph! nah, wont like it!
I can kind of see your point about that, but people do use them as everydays cars too ya know. A hybrid might be quite a good move for Toyotabaru....but not only at under 30mph, lol.
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I hope the Impreza doesn't become the next Carrola.
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that'll just ruin thier reputation of being a good performance saloon! a boxer that switches into electric mode under 30mph! nah, wont like it!
I don't think he was being serious. Maybe a WRX Hybrid, but I don't think they would make the STi hybrid.
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