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Old 04-03-2007, 10:45 PM   #1
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Sunfire Vs Colbalt

Which is better in everyones eyes. I'm talking about performance not looks.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:04 PM   #2
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The Cobalt.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:22 PM   #3
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It sounds to me like someone's Mommy and Daddy bought him a Sunfire, and he just figured out it's a bitchmobile.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:40 AM   #4
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actually i'm 14 and trying to figure out a good car to get for my first, so I can save up.
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:22 AM   #5
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It sounds to me like someone's Mommy and Daddy bought him a Sunfire, and he just figured out it's a bitchmobile.
what with the hateful comment?
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:33 AM   #6
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what with the hateful comment?

He was assumeing I have a sunfire and then found out it was a chick car because I asked why it was considered that. But maybe people should stop assuming because all you do when you assume is make an ass out of you and me.
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Old 04-04-2007, 02:41 PM   #7
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what with the hateful comment?
Newsflash! It was not a hateful comment.

"Your mother is fat and smells funny."

THAT is a hateful comment. I know nothing about your mother so I have no basis for anything stated above and it would be completely uncalled for.

"It sounds to me like someone's Mommy and Daddy bought him a Sunfire, and he just figured out it's a bitchmobile."

THAT is an observation based on his post history. Incorrect? Apparently, but based on fact and years of experience.


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He was assumeing I have a sunfire and then found out it was a chick car because I asked why it was considered that. But maybe people should stop assuming because all you do when you assume is make an ass out of you and me.
The only assumptions here are being made by you. Proof is in your post. You are assuming that I was assuming, which I wasn't. I was making an observation. Don't they teach critical thinking skills in school anymore?

P.S. You've been doing a fine job of making an ass out of yourself on this forum entirely without my help.

Have a nice day kiddies.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:18 PM   #8
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actually i'm 14 and trying to figure out a good car to get for my first, so I can save up.

A good first car for someone who's only worried about performance would be something that doesn't perform well at all. Unless you think good involves the words "wrapped" and "tree".
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:19 PM   #9
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A good first car for someone who's only worried about performance would be something that doesn't perform well at all. Unless you think good involves the words "wrapped" and "tree".

i'm not only worried about performance of all the cas i've looked at only these two. I can see the body, but I don't know jack about car specs when it comes to the performance.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:37 PM   #10
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The Cobalt is the replacement for the Sunfire/Cavalier. Shouldn't be hard to figure out which is better.
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The Cobalt is the replacement for the Sunfire/Cavalier. Shouldn't be hard to figure out which is better.
Really? Is that how it works? Remember the Trans-Am SD-455 with 290 to 400 horsepower (depending on if you believe official deflated factory numbers or real world numbers) and a real 4-speed transmission? GM replaced that a few years later with a Trans-Am that had a Crossfire Injected 305 with 145 hp and an automatic trans. So since it was the replacement (or certainly newer model) the newer car must also be "better". Right? That's how it works out using your logic.

Or could your pretzel logic be confused?
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:21 PM   #12
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Newsflash! It was not a hateful comment.

"Your mother is fat and smells funny."

THAT is a hateful comment. I know nothing about your mother so I have no basis for anything stated above and it would be completely uncalled for.

"It sounds to me like someone's Mommy and Daddy bought him a Sunfire, and he just figured out it's a bitchmobile."

THAT is an observation based on his post history. Incorrect? Apparently, but based on fact and years of experience.



The only assumptions here are being made by you. Proof is in your post. You are assuming that I was assuming, which I wasn't. I was making an observation. Don't they teach critical thinking skills in school anymore?

P.S. You've been doing a fine job of making an ass out of yourself on this forum entirely without my help.

Have a nice day kiddies.
ah i see i didnt see his other posts my bad then
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:23 PM   #13
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Really? Is that how it works? Remember the Trans-Am SD-455 with 290 to 400 horsepower (depending on if you believe official deflated factory numbers or real world numbers) and a real 4-speed transmission? GM replaced that a few years later with a Trans-Am that had a Crossfire Injected 305 with 145 hp and an automatic trans. So since it was the replacement (or certainly newer model) the newer car must also be "better". Right? That's how it works out using your logic.

Or could your pretzel logic be confused?
yea newer isnt alway better that like saying a new meto could out run a good old muscle car
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:30 PM   #14
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Really? Is that how it works? Remember the Trans-Am SD-455 with 290 to 400 horsepower (depending on if you believe official deflated factory numbers or real world numbers) and a real 4-speed transmission? GM replaced that a few years later with a Trans-Am that had a Crossfire Injected 305 with 145 hp and an automatic trans. So since it was the replacement (or certainly newer model) the newer car must also be "better". Right? That's how it works out using your logic.

Or could your pretzel logic be confused?
"1982: 305 4 barrel, 305 Cross-Fire Injection (First year for fuel injection in Trans Am)"
If so than that would be seen as better in terms how the EPA see's the world. "Better" is a relative term, trying to make a more fuel efficient car that is more reliable across a wider temperature range might be better, however in terms of performance, I don't think that would be the first car I would want to drive. Usually when something is replaced, there is a reason, normally people don't waste time, money, and labor to make a change without a sought after outcome. Whether or not the change is "good" or "better" depends on how you define it.

Back to the question, both are good first cars, reasonably priced, relatively safe (unless you play chicken with a Dodge Ram) and run well. I would say go for the cheaper to begin and the money saved between the two apply towards college
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:32 PM   #15
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yea newer isnt alway better that like saying a new meto could out run a good old muscle car
I think you're missing the point there, lol. I believe he was saying that certain car companies' replacements for outgoing models aren't always better than what they're going to be replacing. Like the Sierra/Mondeo here in the UK (couldn't think of a US example.... ). Of course I could be wrong, in which case I'll shut up now, lol.
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