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Old 08-29-2007, 11:58 PM   #31
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the X type and XK are available with manuals. the XJ has never had a manual going back to the Mk X/420 of the '60s, IIRC. Neither of my XJ6s were available with manuals back in the day.
I was sure I'd seen a manual box on an early 90s XJ6, so I done some research. The proof's in the pudding, as they say, lol. They're rare, but they're there.

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Old 08-30-2007, 12:42 AM   #32
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Ya. I don't think Jaguar offers a manual in the US on any of its vehicles. Maybe it does and I don't know about it, but regardless the fact of the matter is they have gone away from a company that used to be much more into performance and racing.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:29 PM   #33
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I was sure I'd seen a manual box on an early 90s XJ6, so I done some research. The proof's in the pudding, as they say, lol. They're rare, but they're there.


yeah, and a few of the XJRs, as well. But the point was OLD jags, and most luxury jags over the decades have been automatic, going back to the very early ones of the '60s. the Mk V, MK VII, MK IX, Mk X 420, etc. And IIRC all of the V12 cars.

The XK, just like it's forebearers, is still available with a manual IIRC, just like the original XKE and XK 120/140/150. And, of course, the X type has been available with a manual since it was introduced.

Still for a luxury car, the automatic is a better bet. Kind of like my 7 series which was only available with a manual in the small engine versions in Europe.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:32 PM   #34
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Ya. I don't think Jaguar offers a manual in the US on any of its vehicles. Maybe it does and I don't know about it, but regardless the fact of the matter is they have gone away from a company that used to be much more into performance and racing.

back in the day, they only had one street model that was for racing, and that was the XK series (XK 120/140/150 and XKE). the rest of their cars were luxury sedans with decent pace. Did you forget about the fact that this is what Jag produced in the '50s?



And into the '60s:





And then in the '70s and '80s, this was their primary seller (my own XJ6):



Luxury cars were their bread and butter almost since the start...

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Old 08-31-2007, 03:51 AM   #35
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I didnt say they haven't sold alot of luxury cars. I said they are farther from racing now more than ever. Which is fact unless you consider their F1 effort something that materializes in their cars. Thats all. Yes alot of luxo jags have been automatics, but there has almost always been the option of a manual. I was just making a broad point about the direction jaguar has taken and I believe it to be true. They have always prided themselves in building the sportiest and most luxurious cars at a price.
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Old 09-02-2007, 11:46 PM   #36
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yeah, and a few of the XJRs, as well. But the point was OLD jags, and most luxury jags over the decades have been automatic, going back to the very early ones of the '60s. the Mk V, MK VII, MK IX, Mk X 420, etc. And IIRC all of the V12 cars.
Unless I read it wrong, you said "The XJ has never had a manual going back to the xxxxx of the 60s"....hence my response
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Old 09-05-2007, 06:59 PM   #37
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I love Jaguars, because they have an exclusive feel to them. You don't see nearly as many Jags as Mercedes or BMW's. If I had the money I would most definitely buy one of them over any other luxury car.
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