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Old 10-21-2007, 11:20 PM   #106
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Haha you ignorant piece of shit, I do believe buick was the first to use variable valve timing. I think it was in 53 and it was for economy.
well obviously honda made it work, cause i dont see that on buicks...in fact i dont see buicks at all anymore
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:56 AM   #107
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VTEC is all honda, all I see now are copies used by different manufacturers. Lets not forget what cars last, and which ones dont. Sure older domestics were indestructable, hell my pontiac went 152k before I crashed it and im sure it would still be running strong today with 200k+, but the new stuff they make is just blah. I like a few domestic cars, but thats all. I would take a range rover sport over an escalade, a passat 2.0t over an accord, and a fod gt over most any ferrari just for the price difference, and the car wouldnt see enough miles to actually get to the point where it breaks, but for sheer engineering, american cars do nothing for me


You ignorant retarded wannabe. VTEC was introduced in the 80's. ****ing FIAT of all manufacturer's had VVT in the late 60's. How in the SHIT can you claim that VVT is a Honda invention? They were copying something already in place, you asstard.
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:15 AM   #108
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You ignorant retarded wannabe. VTEC was introduced in the 80's. ****ing FIAT of all manufacturer's had VVT in the late 60's. How in the SHIT can you claim that VVT is a Honda invention? They were copying something already in place, you asstard.
I guess that because Honda have made such a big thing if it in recent years, he just took it that they were the first manufacturer to use it.....It was an ignorant statement I suppose, but I can see his side of it (I think, lol....)
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:26 AM   #109
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well obviously honda made it work, cause i dont see that on buicks...in fact i dont see buicks at all anymore
Just because people buy it doesn't mean Honda made it work. I guess Honda must have superior engineering in the badge department as well, seeing as Type R badges sell better than Cobra or SS badges.

Buicks are considered to be some of the highest quality cars being built right now in their price range.

And you never answered my question as to why domestic companies would want to steer away from making 300+hp V8s and spend the extra time and money into engineering a less powerful (yet just as heavy and expensive) 4 cylinder that makes more power/liter.

My car makes more power per cupholder. This makes GMs better somehow, Honda is using old cupholder engineering technology.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:04 PM   #110
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Just because people buy it doesn't mean Honda made it work. I guess Honda must have superior engineering in the badge department as well, seeing as Type R badges sell better than Cobra or SS badges.

Buicks are considered to be some of the highest quality cars being built right now in their price range.

And you never answered my question as to why domestic companies would want to steer away from making 300+hp V8s and spend the extra time and money into engineering a less powerful (yet just as heavy and expensive) 4 cylinder that makes more power/liter.

My car makes more power per cupholder. This makes GMs better somehow, Honda is using old cupholder engineering technology.
Now you are just acting like an idiot. Maybe buicks are some of the highest quality cars in their price range right now, but I still dont see any. Shit ive been doing valet for a month, and with over 1000 cars that we have had come through, I havent seen a single newer buick, only one older one that looked like a ~1992 century. And I never said they should. Why would they put a less powerful motor into a heavy car like the mustang. If they could make 240 horses from even a 2.2 N/A motor for the Focus, that would be impressive.
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:05 PM   #111
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Now you are just acting like an idiot.
Can I just ask a question? Why is it that you Yanks (rash generalisation that just seems to hold more true for Americans than other nationalities) always seem to preface your arguments with a personal attack like that above, or "you're a dumbass" or something similar?

By doing this, you will always put the other person off-side immediately and any valid argument you have from that point on will always be disregarded and you will never manage to make the other person see your point of view properly, no matter how right you may be...
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:53 PM   #112
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Not all of us are like that Windy. It's the new generation. They're bombarded with that sort of crap everyday. It's in our movies, commercials, porn, hell even our congressmen do it. Complete breakdown of civilization. (sigh)

Newyorker:

I put 4 kids through college.

Two listened to father and bought nice used cars for cash.
Two bought new cars with big payments.
Two went to all the parties, ball games, concerts, other fun stuff.
Two stayed home every weekend, because they were broke from those big car payments.
Two of them loved college.
Two of them hated college.

Guess which two?

Putting yourself in debt at 19 is a very stupid thing to do. No hill for you of course.

Keep your old car.

Rethink your thought processes, Every time you start one of these, you get your ass handed to you. Why do you continue to think your the only one who is right? You should learn from making the same mistakes over and over and over . . . and over . . . and over . . .

PS:

The S2000 is one of the most sorry pieces of crap, I ever owned.
there, I said it, and I stand by it.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:18 PM   #113
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I did much the same thing. Went and bought a new car at 19, although not in college. Sick of paying bills all the time. It totally blows.
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Old 10-22-2007, 07:29 PM   #114
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Not all of us are like that Windy. It's the new generation. They're bombarded with that sort of crap everyday. It's in our movies, commercials, porn, hell even our congressmen do it. Complete breakdown of civilization. (sigh)

Newyorker:

I put 4 kids through college.

Two listened to father and bought nice used cars for cash.
Two bought new cars with big payments.
Two went to all the parties, ball games, concerts, other fun stuff.
Two stayed home every weekend, because they were broke from those big car payments.
Two of them loved college.
Two of them hated college.

Guess which two?

Putting yourself in debt at 19 is a very stupid thing to do. No hill for you of course.

Keep your old car.

Rethink your thought processes, Every time you start one of these, you get your ass handed to you. Why do you continue to think your the only one who is right? You should learn from making the same mistakes over and over and over . . . and over . . . and over . . .

PS:

The S2000 is one of the most sorry pieces of crap, I ever owned.
there, I said it, and I stand by it.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:24 AM   #115
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Much better then I could ever say jcutsh
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Old 10-23-2007, 02:57 AM   #116
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Not all of us are like that Windy. It's the new generation. They're bombarded with that sort of crap everyday. It's in our movies, commercials, porn, hell even our congressmen do it. Complete breakdown of civilization. (sigh)

Newyorker:

I put 4 kids through college.

Two listened to father and bought nice used cars for cash.
Two bought new cars with big payments.
Two went to all the parties, ball games, concerts, other fun stuff.
Two stayed home every weekend, because they were broke from those big car payments.
Two of them loved college.
Two of them hated college.

Guess which two?

Putting yourself in debt at 19 is a very stupid thing to do. No hill for you of course.

Keep your old car.

Rethink your thought processes, Every time you start one of these, you get your ass handed to you. Why do you continue to think your the only one who is right? You should learn from making the same mistakes over and over and over . . . and over . . . and over . . .

PS:

The S2000 is one of the most sorry pieces of crap, I ever owned.
there, I said it, and I stand by it.

Already told him that 100 posts ago but as if he's going to listen to me....

Hopefully he'll listen to you....
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:29 AM   #117
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Already told him that 100 posts ago but as if he's going to listen to me....

Hopefully he'll listen to you....
Well the car goes in for the input shaft bearing on wednesday, as well as clutch kit, so after spending 520 dollars on it, I dont think il want to sell it right away. I fixed all of the rattles, and the car actually isnt bad now, still drives great for the miles it has, and looks the part as well. My neighbor thought it was brand new when I brought it home on the first day. We will see how it goes, but unless I hit the lottery, Im not sure a new car will be coming anytime soon. If I can drive it till end of college, and get established with a nice job after finish, I will be able to get something brand new then, and it wont be an economy car, rather a large luxury sedan, or a sports car
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:22 AM   #118
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Well the car goes in for the input shaft bearing on wednesday, as well as clutch kit, so after spending 520 dollars on it, I dont think il want to sell it right away. I fixed all of the rattles, and the car actually isnt bad now, still drives great for the miles it has, and looks the part as well. My neighbor thought it was brand new when I brought it home on the first day. We will see how it goes, but unless I hit the lottery, Im not sure a new car will be coming anytime soon. If I can drive it till end of college, and get established with a nice job after finish, I will be able to get something brand new then, and it wont be an economy car, rather a large luxury sedan, or a sports car

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Old 11-08-2007, 07:12 AM   #119
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forget the fit... get si...si looks MUCH nicer
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