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Old 11-08-2007, 10:45 PM   #1
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Unhappy whats a KEY CYLINDER?

and why did mine go bad?

and why was it so expensive to fix?

2003 Ford Focus

i mostly want to know so that i can prevent it again if possible

thanks for your help!!!
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:46 PM   #2
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and why did mine go bad?

and why was it so expensive to fix?

2003 Ford Focus

i mostly want to know so that i can prevent it again if possible

thanks for your help!!!
Wow! With so much supporting information about the repair, it should be no problem to explain what, why and where. No, really, let me look into my crystal ball.

You didn't bother to tell us what kind of Focus or what "key cylinder" you had replaced, so I'll just go with a BEWAG. I'll assume you have a Focus ZX3. I'll assume you had the ignition lock cylinder replaced. I'll assume that no other repair or servicing was accomplished.

Replacing the ignition lock cylinder including a re-code is about a two hour job. If it had to be re-keyed to match the original key and doors, add maybe 1/2 hour. And the part from Ford is about $130ish. You can do the math from there.

Finally, the #1 killer of ignition lock cylinders is people, almost always women, who have a keychain with pictures, medallions, small furry animals, sex toys, etc, that weigh in at about 20 pounds. The cylinder is made to carry the weight of a key. Only.

If you want anymore info, the process starts with you.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:24 AM   #3
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Thumbs down Thanks!

yikes, thanks for that chauvinistic, know-it-all response

from that response i'll assume that you are a very sad and lonely person who's small amount of self esteem comes from flaunting you knowledge about cars

wup dee doo, iím sure the people who order at the drive thru where you work are very impressed with this

its easy to be so cocky when you hide behind your computer isnt it? you are probably single, unattractive, live with your mom and have no friends

try sunlight

fyi, i dont have a massive weight on my keychain; its just the key, remote, and one apt. key... *promptly removes assumed dildo from keychain*

thats ok, feel free to assume what you want about me, i'll do the same for you

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Old 11-09-2007, 06:32 AM   #4
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yikes, thanks for that chauvinistic, know-it-all response

from that response i'll assume that you are a very sad and lonely person who's small amount of self esteem comes from flaunting you knowledge about cars

wup dee doo, iím sure the people who order at the drive thru where you work are very impressed with this

its easy to be so cocky when you hide behind your computer isnt it? you are probably single, unattractive, live with your mom and have no friends

try sunlight

fyi, i dont have a massive weight on my keychain; its just the key, remote, and one apt. key... *promptly removes assumed dildo from keychain*

thats ok, feel free to assume what you want about me, i'll do the same for you

lol as much as I dislike him, I gotta correct a few things here

He is an ASE mechanic
He is married....with kids apparently
I think he acts like a dick too, but we cant give a good answer without a good question.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:37 AM   #5
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see? thats all you had to say, and not be a douche about it

i tried to ask the ppl at Ford but of course they were too busy to give me an answer - even though i was sitting there for 2 hours

i genuinely care about my car and don't want to mess it up if this was my fault in the first place

i should have known better than to go post on some public forum without putting up the correct amount of information and for that i'm sorry

no worries tho, i dont think i'll ever be coming back, not if people on here act like that
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:56 AM   #6
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see? thats all you had to say, and not be a douche about it

i tried to ask the ppl at Ford but of course they were too busy to give me an answer - even though i was sitting there for 2 hours

i genuinely care about my car and don't want to mess it up if this was my fault in the first place

i should have known better than to go post on some public forum without putting up the correct amount of information and for that i'm sorry

no worries tho, i dont think i'll ever be coming back, not if people on here act like that

What the hell? All you wanted to hear is him telling you about vwhobo's life without being a douche about it?

Anyway, I'm no ASE mechanic, but I can tell you one thing. If you get a part changed without being told EXACTLY what the part is, why it's being fixed, and how it's being done, something is very, very wrong. So you were either lieng about the whole two hour Ford wait or you need a new mechanic/dealership ASAP.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:57 AM   #7
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see? thats all you had to say, and not be a douche about it

i tried to ask the ppl at Ford but of course they were too busy to give me an answer - even though i was sitting there for 2 hours

i genuinely care about my car and don't want to mess it up if this was my fault in the first place

i should have known better than to go post on some public forum without putting up the correct amount of information and for that i'm sorry

no worries tho, i dont think i'll ever be coming back, not if people on here act like that
no harm no foul...however, there is a sticky right on top of this section written by vwhomo himself saying basically what I said, that we cant help if we dont know...i cant help either way cause i have no expertise in this, but do you know if they did work under the hood or in the car?? try to get some info and post up.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:02 AM   #8
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What the hell? All you wanted to hear is him telling you about vwhobo's life without being a douche about it?

Anyway, I'm no ASE mechanic, but I can tell you one thing. If you get a part changed without being told EXACTLY what the part is, why it's being fixed, and how it's being done, something is very, very wrong. So you were either lieng about the whole two hour Ford wait or you need a new mechanic/dealership ASAP.
What do you mean...that the guys at the service desk should tell you a step by step procedure on how the technician will do his job. A lot of people dont give 2 shits why something is being replaced, or what that something is. If you dont ask, they just dont tell, thats all at least how i have experienced it here.

Point is, dunojackbtcars, you should have asked them before they did the repair what everything was if its of interest to you. It sounds like you went in, they told you that something needed to be fixed, you said "ok" and let them do it, and now you want to know...GL, hope that you get a service rep that is nice enough to help you.
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:04 AM   #9
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no no no, i meant that all vwhobo had to do was not be a complete jackass about telling me he needed more info

that was my bad for not giving more details about my car *silly me who doesnt post on online forums a lot and um doesn't know jack about cars (see username)*

so i went in to the ford dealership which i have never been before, at least not that one. told them what was wrong and the guy took my car back. he came out about an hour later with a big bill and i asked him what happened and what i had done/could do to prevent that from happening again

he said i hadn't done anything and that my "key cylinder" (which i asked him what that was) had gone bad (and i asked him how they "go bad"). he didnt tell me what a key cylinder was and simply said "sometimes these things just stop working."

he said it wasn't my fault and that i was lucky to have even made it in; i told him to give me a min to figure out what to do and if i wanted the maintenance, called my dad (of course) and decided to get it done, i can not live without my car and it was already frustrating that it took 10 minutes to try and re-try to get my key to turn so that it would start.

and an hour after THAT i was running the credit card
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:09 AM   #10
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no no no, i meant that all vwhobo had to do was not be a complete jackass about telling me he needed more info

that was my bad for not giving more details about my car *silly me who doesnt post on online forums a lot and um doesn't know jack about cars (see username)*

so i went in to the ford dealership which i have never been before, at least not that one. told them what was wrong and the guy took my car back. he came out about an hour later with a big bill and i asked him what happened and what i had done/could do to prevent that from happening again

he said i hadn't done anything and that my "key cylinder" (which i asked him what that was) had gone bad (and i asked him how they "go bad"). he didnt tell me what a key cylinder was and simply said "sometimes these things just stop working."

he said it wasn't my fault and that i was lucky to have even made it in; i told him to give me a min to figure out what to do and if i wanted the maintenance, called my dad (of course) and decided to get it done, i can not live without my car and it was already frustrating that it took 10 minutes to try and re-try to get my key to turn so that it would start.

and an hour after THAT i was running the credit card
did you tell them to fix the problem...if you asked them what was wrong, and they did work on your car without your permission, get a lawyer.

come on, at least give some symtoms the car was having..i dont wana be a dick, but you should have figured out by now that we cant help you with the info you have up!
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:13 AM   #11
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puts key in ignition and key does not turn at all, its "locked." the key goes in and out of the ignition just fine, doesnt get stuck and doesnt go partially in, goes all the way in.

when key does turn (after countless tries) the engine stars fine, nothing wrong there i hope

this happened even when the steering wheel was not locked, however, several times that i jiggled the wheel thinking it might help even when not locked i succeeded locking it which made the process even harder.

2003 focus sedan, SE, 47k miles, automatic trans., power locks & windows, alarm and i'm sure some other fun anti-theft stuff
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puts key in ignition and key does not turn at all, its "locked." the key goes in and out of the ignition just fine, doesnt get stuck and doesnt go partially in, goes all the way in.

when key does turn (after countless tries) the engine stars fine, nothing wrong there i hope

this happened when the steering wheel was not locked, however, several times that i jiggled the wheel thinking it might help even when not locked i succeeded locking it which made the process even harder.

2003 focus sedan, SE, 47k miles, automatic trans., power locks, windows, alarm and i'm sure some other fun anti-theft stuff
thats the kinda thing you should have posted to begin with!
sounds like they replaced the piece that you put your key into to start the car..the whole thing (not sure what its called)

only experiene I have with that, is a girl I used to date had the same thing happen on her 199_ ford escort...might be a common problem, might be a freak accident...just dont rip the key into/out of the ignition, and dont turn it overly hard I would guess
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:22 PM   #13
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yikes, thanks for that chauvinistic, know-it-all response

from that response i'll assume that you are a very sad and lonely person who's small amount of self esteem comes from flaunting you knowledge about cars

wup dee doo, iím sure the people who order at the drive thru where you work are very impressed with this

its easy to be so cocky when you hide behind your computer isnt it? you are probably single, unattractive, live with your mom and have no friends

try sunlight

fyi, i dont have a massive weight on my keychain; its just the key, remote, and one apt. key... *promptly removes assumed dildo from keychain*

thats ok, feel free to assume what you want about me, i'll do the same for you

Assume all you want, but what you have done is very publicly displayed your complete and utter arrogance and stupidity. No assumption required. Did you notice that even though there was a complete dearth of information on your part, I was still able to nail the correct answer to your question? Of course not. You were too busy worrying about your self righteous offendedness to notice.

I'm quite sure that your IQ is about 1/3 of what you give yourself credit for, that you are currently and will continue to be a drain on your parents until some poor man allows you to make his life a living hell. Please do us a favor and return to your village. They miss their idiot.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:27 PM   #14
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