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Old 05-03-2004, 05:42 PM   #1
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Scion .. a good deal or another lemon?

I was wondering what everyone thinks of the new Scion cars out there. I'm looking for a new car and know that the prices seem right. I heard some people say Scions are good because of they are the same company as Toyota and we all know how Toyotas are reliable. I'm not particularly interisted in the xA or xB but their new tC intrigues. It comes standard with with everything i need, a/c, power everything, plus 17' alloy wheels, ABS, am/fm/cd 6 speaker! wait and i forgot to mention powermoonroof and the cost is about 17300 for auto 16500 for manual!

However with all these features for that price, I have to wonder if I'm the one being taken out for a ride. Although they are owned by Toyota, do they have Toyota's dependability?

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Old 05-03-2004, 08:45 PM   #2
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my guess is that yes, they will be reliable because they're really just toyotas (not exact toyota models but you get my drift...) with the Scion name.
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Old 05-03-2004, 09:04 PM   #3
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xa and xb have no power and they are really ugly, but i have yet to see the tc. you got any pics?
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Old 05-03-2004, 09:10 PM   #4
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here's your tC....i actually really like this.

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Old 05-03-2004, 09:23 PM   #5
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not too shabby, a considerable improvement over the others.
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Old 05-03-2004, 09:45 PM   #6
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heres the list of standard features:

Manual $16,465
Automatic $17,265

and it comes with all of the following:


Comfort and Convenience Features

Air Conditioner
Power Windows (with one-touch up/down on driver & passenger window w/ pinch protection)
Power Door Locks with Remote Entry
Power Outside Mirrors
Panorama Moonroof with Power Slide/Tilt Front Glass Panel and Dual Manual Sunshades
Rear Window Defogger
Digital Clock
Dual Power Points
Outside Temperature Gauge
Tilt-Steering Wheel
Tachometer and Trip Meter
Sport Front Bucket Seats with Fabric Upholstery and Driver's Seat Adjustable Thigh Support
Cruise Control
Cargo Area Storage
Driver's Seat One-Touch Walk-In w/ Track and Seat Angle Memory
60/40 Split Folding Rear Seat
Rear Window Shading
Driver and Passenger Sun Visor Mirror w/ Cover
Hard Cargo Cover
Amber Instrument Panel Illumination
Exterior Features
17" Alloy Wheels
Multi-Reflector Auto-off Halogen Headlamps
Side Mirrors with Turn Indicators
Intermittent Front Wipers
Chrome Exhaust Tip

Audio

Pioneer AM/FM/CD Head Unit (MP3 and Satellite controller capable)
Scion Sound Processing
6-Speakers (including 2 tweeters)
Rear Fender-Mount Antenna

Safety Features

Driver and Passenger Front Airbags*
Driver Knee Airbag*
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver and Passenger 3-Point Seat Belts
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Three-Across Rear Head Restraints
3-Across 3-Point Rear Seat Belts
First Aid Kit

Mechanical/Performance

Engine Double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve VVT-i 4-cylinder
Displacement 2.4 liters
Bore x stroke 88.5mm X 96mm
Compression ratio 9.6:1
Valvetrain Double overhead cam (DOHC) 16-valve with Variable Valve Timing with intelligence (VVT-i)
Induction system Multi-port EFI
Ignition system Electronic with Direct Ignition System (DIS)
Horsepower 160 hp @ 5,700 rpm
Torque 163 lb.-ft. @ 4,000 rpm
Transmission
5-speed manual overdrive Standard
4-speed electronically controlled transmission (ECT) Available
Suspension
Front MacPherson strut
Rear Double wishbone suspension
Steering Power assisted rack-and-pinion steering
Turning Circle 36.1 ft.
Brakes Power-assisted 4-wheel disk with Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS)
Exterior Dimensions (inches)
Overall height 55.7
Overall width 69.1
Overall length 174.0
Wheelbase 106.3
Track (front/rear) 59.3/59.3
Ground clearance 5.2
Interior Dimensions Front/Rear (inches)
Seating Capacity 5
Weights and Capacities
Curb Weight (lbs.) 2,905/2,970 (manual/automatic)
Passenger Volume (cu. ft.) 84.7
Cargo Volume (cu. ft.) 12.8
Fuel Tank (gal.) 14.5
Tires P215/45ZR17 (All Season)
Spare Temporary
Mileage Estimates (MPG City / Highway)
Manual 22/30
Automatic 23/30


i hope it does have toyota dependability cuz for 17G's i get ABS, 17' Alloy Wheels, Power Moonroof, XM radio ..this car looks awfully tempting
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Old 05-03-2004, 09:50 PM   #7
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Yeh, I Jus Saw That New Tc Last MOTNH.. They Had It On Billboreds Also Around San Francisco... I Think It Looks Nice! And Like What That Superjew Said.. If Its Under Toyota Then Its Pretty Durible. IT DOSNT COME OUT TILL JUNE THO. THATS NEXT MONTH!
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Yeh, I Jus Saw That New Tc Last MOTNH.. They Had It On Billboreds Also Around San Francisco... I Think It Looks Nice! And Like What That Superjew Said.. If Its Under Toyota Then Its Pretty Durible. IT DOSNT COME OUT TILL JUNE THO. THATS NEXT MONTH!

so its next month....whats the big deal? a month really isnt that long...
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so its next month....whats the big deal? a month really isnt that long...


THA DEAL IS... "THAT IT COMES OUT NEXT MONTH" U GUYS ALWAYS GOTTA TRY TO START SHIT.

LIKE I TOLD MANY, YALL GOTTA STOP TRYNA GET A PEICE OF ME, U AINT GON GET FAME THAT WAY MAN.

and btw... im rick james B*TCH!!
rick james wasnt jewish either.

and y u callin ur self jew.. aint tha term "jew" a racist word for Jewish

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Old 05-03-2004, 10:21 PM   #10
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"THAT IT COMES OUT NEXT MONTH" U GUYS ALWAYS GOTTA TRY TO START SHIT.

LIKE I TOLD MANY, YALL GOTTA STOP TRYNA GET A PEICE OF ME, U AINT GON GET FAME THAT WAY MAN.

and btw... im rick james B*TCH!!

and i'm asking why you care that it comes out next month. the BMW M5 isnt coming out for about another year. i'm not trying to "start shit" and i dont need fame off of you. i can get fame other ways, like actually contributing to the forum.

and if you're rick james then prove it.

:EDIT: wow...are you serious???? please tell me you're joking....if not then you just made a HUGE ass out of yourself.
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THA DEAL IS... "THAT IT COMES OUT NEXT MONTH" U GUYS ALWAYS GOTTA TRY TO START SHIT.

LIKE I TOLD MANY, YALL GOTTA STOP TRYNA GET A PEICE OF ME, U AINT GON GET FAME THAT WAY MAN.

and btw... im rick james B*TCH!!
rick james wasnt jewish either.

and y u callin ur self jew.. aint tha term "jew" a racist word for Jewish
Geeeeee...LOSE THE CAPS MAAAAAAN...funnily enough, not everybody is after you
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and i'm asking why you care that it comes out next month. the BMW M5 isnt coming out for about another year. i'm not trying to "start shit" and i dont need fame off of you. i can get fame other ways, like actually contributing to the forum.

and if you're rick james then prove it.

:EDIT: wow...are you serious???? please tell me you're joking....if not then you just made a HUGE ass out of yourself.


y do i care???? NI**A please.. Y DO U CARE!? Y DONT U JUS LAY OF MY GRILL MANN... and FYI im contributin jus like u r.. its jus people like u that always got something against me thats makes me tick.

and im more rick james then ull ever be.. ur jewish.
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y do i care???? NI**A please.. Y DO U CARE!? Y DONT U JUS LAY OF MY GRILL MANN... and FYI im contributin jus like u r.. its jus people like u that always got something against me thats makes me tick.

and im more rick james then ull ever be.. ur jewish.
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y do i care???? NI**A please.. Y DO U CARE!? Y DONT U JUS LAY OF MY GRILL MANN... and FYI im contributin jus like u r.. its jus people like u that always got something against me thats makes me tick.

and im more rick james then ull ever be.. ur jewish.

please don't call me a "NI**A"....i don't like it when people use racist terms....but according to you "Jew" is a racist term, so i must be a hypocrite. wait, you're wrong! Jew is simply a shorthand term. i could tell you some racial slurs relating to Jews but i don't like saying them.

and do you really think i care that youre "more rick james than ull ever be"....you're probably just...no i just wont go on with this. i'll be the bigger man and just walk away. have a nice life.
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wuhhH!????????
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