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03-10-2008, 05:56 AM
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Right move?
Now, I wouldn't normally post about something as mondane as this, but I do feel quite strongly about what I'm going to say. Here goes...
Now when car manufacturers build new and supposedly "improved" models, you'd assume that they'd change for the better, in terms of styling especially. So tell me, can anyone shed any light on as to what Chrysler was thinking when they designed their new Grand Voyager? To me it looks like they've taken as backward step rather than a step forward. The body is quarer than the model it replaces, the interior "wood" is clearly plastic and the engine lineup is much the same as before - 1 diesel and one rather large V6 petrol lump (not necessarily a good move in this day and age, especially in the UK, what with our money grabbing Government!). Maybe it's just a UK thing, lol.
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03-10-2008, 06:02 PM
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Not only that but the idiots put the steering wheel on the wrong (right) side...what's wrong with them?!!
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03-10-2008, 11:06 PM
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As far as the exterior styling I think Chrysler realized that women don't mind driving manly things (SUVs) but guys do mind driving things like minivans. A slight drop in popularity with the women is worth the large increase in interest from men. That's just my take, as this does look a little more masculine than years past.
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03-11-2008, 01:29 AM
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That looks just like the town and country. 
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03-11-2008, 08:17 PM
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Simply put, a box is the most efficient use of space, and this is just a bigger box. We don't get the diesel here in the US, and get a couple gasoline V6s instead.
You want a slightly different variation on it, buy the new VW version.
Under the hood is a familiar Chrysler 3.8-liter V6, rated at 197 horsepower and 230 pound-feet of torque. A 251-hp 4.0-liter is optional.
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03-11-2008, 09:31 PM
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Under the hood is a familiar Chrysler 3.8-liter V6, rated at 197 horsepower and 230 pound-feet of torque. A 251-hp 4.0-liter is optional.
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This is what pisses me off! If I buy a German car...I get Chrysler? Damn them! I know this happens more often than not...but it just bugs me.
What's so difficult about slapping an engine in a van? 
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03-11-2008, 09:45 PM
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What's so difficult about slapping an engine in a van? |
The fact that the space under the hood is minimal. Took 2 mecahnics an hour to replace the air filter on my brothers Montana, and that hood ain't even as small as these are. |
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03-11-2008, 09:56 PM
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The fact that the space under the hood is minimal. Took 2 mecahnics an hour to replace the air filter on my brothers Montana, and that hood ain't even as small as these are.
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Why don't they just make the whole front-end tip forward like the big rigs? 
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03-11-2008, 10:12 PM
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Why don't they just make the whole front-end tip forward like the big rigs? |
That would only make sense. Don't they do that on Hummers and Wranglers? |
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03-11-2008, 10:14 PM
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Why don't they just make the whole front-end tip forward like the big rigs?
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'cause the big rigs have separate frames and the bodywork doesn't have to deal with crumple zones?
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03-11-2008, 10:15 PM
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That would only make sense. Don't they do that on Hummers and Wranglers?
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The wrangler has a separate hood, like a normal vehicle. The Hummers have separate frames like big rigs.
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03-11-2008, 10:18 PM
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'cause the big rigs have separate frames and the bodywork doesn't have to deal with crumple zones?
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It was a suggestion made in jest...
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03-11-2008, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BavarianWheels
This is what pisses me off! If I buy a German car...I get Chrysler? Damn them! I know this happens more often than not...but it just bugs me.
What's so difficult about slapping an engine in a van?
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One can only assume it's a "cost" thing I guess. It's much the same with all the badge sharing that goes on. I suppose if a manufacturer can get away with sticking their badge on another company's body, It would work out cheaper for them....
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03-11-2008, 11:47 PM
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It was a suggestion made in jest...
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I know. It still deserved a bit of an answer. 
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03-12-2008, 12:12 AM
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I know. It still deserved a bit of an answer. |
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