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Old 06-25-2006, 06:01 PM   #1
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75 firebird

im currently looking at a 1975 FireBird. They are asking 2600 for it.
i believe it has 185,000 miles on it althought it could be 85,000 since the odometer resets after 99,999. It has a 350 egine with the 350 tranny. it has new tires, new breaks ect. the exterior is extremely nice and in great condition as in the interior. It is an automatic which is the only thing i would disagree with on it. Do you all think this would be a worthwhile buy for my first peice of american muscle? Also ive been told that it would be possible to change it over to a manual although i dont see that being an easy project. the work itself that the car would need is not an issue but i am a little more concerned with price. i would love to change it over to a 4 speed or so, so if someone could give me some info on thtta it would be great. Thanks

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Old 06-25-2006, 11:04 PM   #2
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The price seems fine if it is in as good shape as you describe. While switching it over to a 4 speed is not imposiable.....it is however impractical.....just keep your eyes pealed for a 4 speed car....much easier to just start out with what you want.....
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:38 AM   #3
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A 75' Firebird is a badass car but if your new to American muscle, 87-93 Mustang V8 is what I'd recommend. More reliable and more modern and much less ass pain..
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A 75' Firebird is a badass car but if your new to American muscle, 87-93 Mustang V8 is what I'd recommend. More reliable and more modern and much less ass pain..

how do you figure? for starters, they are much easier to work on. its kinda hard to mess up something that old. everything is so simple. no computer, no fuel injection, no electric anything (except ignition).
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:20 PM   #5
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how do you figure? for starters, they are much easier to work on. its kinda hard to mess up something that old. everything is so simple. no computer, no fuel injection, no electric anything (except ignition).

plus, why get a ford?
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Old 06-27-2006, 09:12 PM   #6
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how do you figure? for starters, they are much easier to work on. its kinda hard to mess up something that old. everything is so simple. no computer, no fuel injection, no electric anything (except ignition).
Fox body Mustangs are easy and cheap to fix. Parts are much easier to find for a 87-93 Mustang than a 75 Firebird. And "something that old" breaks faster and more consistently than something not that old.

Also, these Mustangs that I speak aren't f*cking M5's. They don't have much electronics either.

No fuel injection? Fuel injection is a good thing.
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Fox body Mustangs are easy and cheap to fix. Parts are much easier to find for a 87-93 Mustang than a 75 Firebird. And "something that old" breaks faster and more consistently than something not that old.

Also, these Mustangs that I speak aren't f*cking M5's. They don't have much electronics either.

No fuel injection? Fuel injection is a good thing.

...but ford had a better idea... and mustangs can be a pain in the ass to work on....
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Mustangs can be a pain in the ass to work on....
By pain in the ass you mean difficulty?

Placing a value on difficulty is almost impossible and commonly accepted to be an "opinionated" figure, especially on topics that aren't under great focus and control like "working on a car". What's difficult to you may be easy to me. Yeah, that sounds about right.

And what's the currency dissolved because of difficulty? Time? Time=money, right?...whatever. Again, because of the looseness of the subject, your placement of negative value on difficulty can not be properly gauged.

However, my place of emphasis on "sum of parts" can be more easily valued. I stated that a 75' Firebird is likely to have more parts in need of replacement than an 87'-93' Mustang...especially a 75' Firebird with an asking price of only $2,600 in a market period where owners are commonly demanding upwards of $9,000 for them. But anyway, parts cost money. $$Dollars$$ Unlike time, money doesn't need to be converted from an arbitrary capital into a definite note to place a value on it.

This is why I think it would be better for you financially to not buy the Firebird and invest in a more stable "musclecar".
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work wise, id take a stang over a firebird anyday...
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By pain in the ass you mean difficulty?

Placing a value on difficulty is almost impossible and commonly accepted to be an "opinionated" figure, especially on topics that aren't under great focus and control like "working on a car". What's difficult to you may be easy to me. Yeah, that sounds about right.

And what's the currency dissolved because of difficulty? Time? Time=money, right?...whatever. Again, because of the looseness of the subject, your placement of negative value on difficulty can not be properly gauged.

However, my place of emphasis on "sum of parts" can be more easily valued. I stated that a 75' Firebird is likely to have more parts in need of replacement than an 87'-93' Mustang...especially a 75' Firebird with an asking price of only $2,600 in a market period where owners are commonly demanding upwards of $9,000 for them. But anyway, parts cost money. $$Dollars$$ Unlike time, money doesn't need to be converted from an arbitrary capital into a definite note to place a value on it.

This is why I think it would be better for you financially to not buy the Firebird and invest in a more stable "musclecar".

you evidently do not work on cars at all... fords are largely regarded, even among ford fans, as being difficult to work on, trouble prone, and unnecessarily complicated...

but if we're going to talk about sum of parts, how many breakable parts would a fuel injected mustang have vs. that 75 firebird? also, how long how much time would be spent comparatively diagnosing and repairing those parts? providing he's paying someone to do it. if he's asking simple questions here, chances are good that he's gonna be paying someone to fix his car for a while...

and the mustangs, while newer, are still 13-19 year old cars that have most likely had the sh*t pounded out of them... they're gonna break too...
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Fox body Mustangs are easy and cheap to fix. Parts are much easier to find for a 87-93 Mustang than a 75 Firebird. And "something that old" breaks faster and more consistently than something not that old.

Also, these Mustangs that I speak aren't f*cking M5's. They don't have much electronics either.

No fuel injection? Fuel injection is a good thing.

they dont have much electronics? they have A LOT more than a 75 firebird. also, fuel injection being a good thing is all a matter of opinion. i like carburators. i think they should still be mass produced and still come on american vehicles. do not get into a pissing match with me about older v8 GM cars. you will loose
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do not get into a pissing match with me about older v8 GM cars. you will loose
Shut the f*ck before I shame you.

I'll post pics and prices of my Fox Body rebuild and show you bitches how easy it is.
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Shut the f*ck before I shame you.

I'll post pics and prices of my Fox Body rebuild and show you bitches how easy it is.

shame away...
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not just yet...

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Why are you speaking for him?

because i want to see your attempt to shame someone....
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