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Old 08-11-2004, 07:36 AM   #1
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Best MPG ever?

hey,

i was just wondering what the best listed MPG vehicle is ever (not including hybrids)

also, are diesel cars always better MPG and which manufacturers (other than VW and mercedes) make new diesel sedans.

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Old 08-11-2004, 09:53 AM   #2
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In Europe, Volkswagen used to sell (and may still sell!) a Lupo with a 1.4 litre diesel engine. It had a special light body, low-resistance tyres and several other tricks. It was sold as the '3L' car, or something, to signify that it used 3 litres of fuel per 100km. In reality, it was even better: one magazine review managed an astonishing 114 mpg from the thing!

This was a genuine production car, although it was apparently a bit unpleasant to drive (the tyres caused the handling to be somewhat understeer-based) and it was very expensive. Still, it was a sterling effort, and shows that it's possible ot get amazing economy without resorting to expensive and complicated hybrid technology.
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Old 08-12-2004, 01:21 AM   #3
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wow that is crazy.

what about cars sold in north america?
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Old 08-12-2004, 02:06 AM   #4
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hey,

i was just wondering what the best listed MPG vehicle is ever (not including hybrids)

also, are diesel cars always better MPG and which manufacturers (other than VW and mercedes) make new diesel sedans.

thanks,

chaz

I know honda has a 2.2 diesel accord over in Europe.
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Old 08-12-2004, 02:15 AM   #5
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Deisels in North America are usually restricted to semis.
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Old 08-12-2004, 07:22 AM   #6
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alright then, out of JUST north american cars (i.e. can be bought in north america) what is the best listed MPG car?
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Old 08-12-2004, 09:09 AM   #7
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Thunderbird,

Honda were actually the last to the table with a diesel engine in Europe. Their diesel has had good reviews, but it's not the most economical engine out there.
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the best is about 6000mpg for purpose built cars.
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the best is about 6000mpg for purpose built cars.

hah, real funny
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Old 08-12-2004, 11:00 PM   #10
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hah, real funny
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Old 08-12-2004, 11:10 PM   #11
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Old 08-13-2004, 12:00 AM   #12
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crazy, what about regular consumer vehicles for the north american market?
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Old 08-13-2004, 05:16 PM   #13
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crazy, what about regular consumer vehicles for the north american market?

well what do you want to do with it? with a bit of modifacation then you can have a perfectly green F350 if you really want
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well what do you want to do with it? with a bit of modifacation then you can have a perfectly green F350 if you really want


no, i mean stock cars, no modifications
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Old 08-14-2004, 09:39 AM   #15
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no, i mean stock cars, no modifications

Well efectively this is, you can run a diesel on bio diesel if you live in a warm climate without any modifacation.

This leads to the sun providing the energy to grow the crop, absorbing CO2 in the process and then you burn it and you get CO2 out. Therefore netting out the CO2 as it is grown again.

I think you will find it hard work to find a fuel efficent car in the usa as no one if really bothered it seems. Well not to the extent of the europeans.
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