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Old 10-25-2008, 10:14 PM   #1
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Pep boys!! GOOD BOYS???

My saturn has trouble starting. Pep Boys said there is a technical information bulletin. I have the paper and it reads: engine coolant temperature sensor related diagnostic trouble code. following conditions and one reads "hard start"

Correction:
Then it says Replace Engine coolant temperture sensor with new design sensor_ p/n 21025106

Ok, does pep sound like they know cars? The first visit they replaced all the spark plugs for $177. That idea did not work....sounds like a hit and miss type of job, becuase I get a whole new story.
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Old 10-28-2008, 09:35 PM   #2
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Well for one, $177 for $20 worth of spark plugs..... I'd say ripped off. As for the other issue I don't know.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:05 PM   #3
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they just replaced the anti freeze resouvour, they said it is the reason for trouble starting cold>

How does a car know its cold? A car must know that to change the fuel mixture.
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:42 AM   #4
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It's not so much reading the temperature that changes the air/fuel mixture, it's how cleanly the fuel burns.
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Old 11-01-2008, 04:34 PM   #5
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Ok I can see that, however when a car is off and is about to get started the car should know how to set the ratio.

I got the car back, and it still has trouble starting. I would love to take these boys to small claims for thier lern as you go method of fixing cars. I have the parts they replaced, I bet there all good parts.
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