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Old 11-21-2008, 05:22 PM   #1
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2004 Mazdaspeed Miata w/ Sport Brakes
42.5k miles

Pads are running a bit low, and I have inspection coming up soon so I want to treat myself to a new set of brakes. Looking to keep or improve factory performance. Currently the brakes are still biting strong but there is a tad much pedal travel for my liking and I get some vibration when I am braking at 80+ plus they dont grab as hard.

Looking for ideas on
Pads (street performance)
Rotors (Miata OEM are known to be great, so maybe resurface if possible)
Fluid

No slotted and/or drilled rotors.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:41 AM   #2
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What exactly are you asking? For a preference on brands? And the no drill/slotted rotors meaning you currently don't have them or you dont want them or both? Personally with something like that I'd go to the Mazda dealer and buy what they suggest for it.
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Old 11-22-2008, 07:10 AM   #3
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What exactly are you asking? For a preference on brands? And the no drill/slotted rotors meaning you currently don't have them or you dont want them or both? Personally with something like that I'd go to the Mazda dealer and buy what they suggest for it.
Correct, I am looking for brand ideas. Don't have drilled/slotted now, don't want them.

edit: A lot of people suggested things like Brembo for rotors, and Hawk HP for pads, but I know that there is more stuff out there like EBC and AEM that I am basically looking for opinions on.
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Like I said, with something like that I wouldn't look at the aftermarket. I'd stick strictly with the factory equipment. I have factorys on my Camaro with no issue...Except now they're getting to the point of replacement, but I'm going drilled and slotted and high performance pads.


As far as fluid goes, you could actually use any DOT3 fluid (I'm pretty sure your car isn't new enough to require DOT4, but you can still use it). It really shouldn't matter which brand you use. It's not gonna make a difference. Just make sure it's atleast DOT3.
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Old 11-23-2008, 06:57 AM   #5
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Like I said, with something like that I wouldn't look at the aftermarket. I'd stick strictly with the factory equipment. I have factorys on my Camaro with no issue...Except now they're getting to the point of replacement, but I'm going drilled and slotted and high performance pads.


As far as fluid goes, you could actually use any DOT3 fluid (I'm pretty sure your car isn't new enough to require DOT4, but you can still use it). It really shouldn't matter which brand you use. It's not gonna make a difference. Just make sure it's atleast DOT3.
Well if I can get a bit more bite from brakes compared to OEM, or more fade-resistance for a bit more money, I am willing to spend the cash within reason of course.
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Well if I can get a bit more bite from brakes compared to OEM, or more fade-resistance for a bit more money, I am willing to spend the cash within reason of course.


Ah, ok. Well, Brembo is obviously a good brand. Wife's got em on the Scoob and that bitch will STOP. As far as Hawk HP I've never even heard of em. I'd suggest getting advice from those that have the same car as you. We can sit here and tell you what to get all day long, but if none of us have had the Mazdaspeed Miata with every brake combo, we can't really tell you jack. BUT, in the sake of attempting to help you out, I'd go Brembo with Hawk HP (If that's what Miata guys are suggesting)
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Ah, ok. Well, Brembo is obviously a good brand. Wife's got em on the Scoob and that bitch will STOP. As far as Hawk HP I've never even heard of em. I'd suggest getting advice from those that have the same car as you. We can sit here and tell you what to get all day long, but if none of us have had the Mazdaspeed Miata with every brake combo, we can't really tell you jack. BUT, in the sake of attempting to help you out, I'd go Brembo with Hawk HP (If that's what Miata guys are suggesting)
Yea Im talking to them as well. I ask becuase I know Brembo for example is a good brand, but my BMW buddy swears that Raybestos (if you ever heard of them) is just as good. Quite frankly what I hear about OEM Miata rotors makes me happy, it's the pads I am looking at. Metalic, semi-metalic, ceramic, carbon-ceramic (i think), or whatever else they have, and I know that certain compound pads work best with certain rotors, etc.
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Raybestos is a great pad brand. Some of the pads have LIFETIME warrentys. Save the box and return the used pads and get another set free. Perfect for the racer in us all. It's what I used on the 94 Z26 and I have no complaints. Soon both Z26s will be upgraded to STI front disk brakes (Brembo...hehe) and rear disc. Cant wait for that.
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Old 11-24-2008, 08:51 PM   #9
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Raybestos is a great pad brand. Some of the pads have LIFETIME warrentys. Save the box and return the used pads and get another set free. Perfect for the racer in us all. It's what I used on the 94 Z26 and I have no complaints. Soon both Z26s will be upgraded to STI front disk brakes (Brembo...hehe) and rear disc. Cant wait for that.
Thats the kind of info I was looking for! How is the stopping power on them (raybestos pads)
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Thats the kind of info I was looking for! How is the stopping power on them (raybestos pads)


Stopping power is good. Not saying there isn't room for improvement, but they are good pads. I'd recommend them.
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Stopping power is good. Not saying there isn't room for improvement, but they are good pads. I'd recommend them.
The thing is I am looking for the most street performance as I can get...the car will be with me for a while, and brakes arent really that expensive that I need a lifetime warranty on them...kinda confused on the whole deal
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The thing is I am looking for the most street performance as I can get...the car will be with me for a while, and brakes arent really that expensive that I need a lifetime warranty on them...kinda confused on the whole deal



The pads that come in a blue box are lifetime warrenty. When the pads wear out, put the old ones back in the box, bring them back to where you got them from and exchange them for free. It's worth it. Basically you're getting free pads for life. lol
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The pads that come in a blue box are lifetime warrenty. When the pads wear out, put the old ones back in the box, bring them back to where you got them from and exchange them for free. It's worth it. Basically you're getting free pads for life. lol
I talked to an SCCA miata guy from a local speedshop who said he would give me a good deal on whatever I went with. For me he recomended to cut the stock rotors if they are within spec and just go with a Hawk HP or HPS pad, said I wouldn't need much more. Told me to take the money I save from not buying lines and super expensive pads and rotors and put it into a master bushing kit for the car, so I may do just that

Thanks for your advice.
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Go for it man. and NP on the advice. here to help.
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Old 12-07-2008, 08:47 AM   #15
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Do you have any experience with using a composite brake pad. The Hawk HP+ is a very high performance street pad and is considered a borderline race pad. It is priced at only 6 dollars more than Hawk's HPS pads and supposedly offers a lot more bang for the buck. I know they will be louder and more dusty than the others but have you ever ridden on a pad like that on the street?
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