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Old 06-04-2004, 02:54 AM   #1
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1966 mustang fastback

i'm gonna start savin up for my first car soon...i'm lookin at a 1966 mustang fastback...will the normal 289 engine be very powerfull?

whats the biggest engine, and best trans possible to stuff into a 66 fastback?
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Old 06-04-2004, 10:41 AM   #2
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i'm gonna start savin up for my first car soon...i'm lookin at a 1966 mustang fastback...will the normal 289 engine be very powerfull?

whats the biggest engine, and best trans possible to stuff into a 66 fastback?

you can fit a rolls royce trent engine in if you realy want but you will need deep pokets and big brakes!
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Old 06-04-2004, 04:48 PM   #3
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i'm gonna start savin up for my first car soon...i'm lookin at a 1966 mustang fastback...will the normal 289 engine be very powerfull?

whats the biggest engine, and best trans possible to stuff into a 66 fastback?

I have a 66' fastback with a 460 Big block with dual double pump Holley 4-barrels, and a 32 cu in. blower. It has a Dana-spicer 4-speed manual racing kit. My dad bought it for me when i was 15, and we worked on it together. It has so much power it's illegal to drive on the street. If you are not surious on power you can get a 302 BOSS and it has lots of hp and tourqe. The BOSS kit alows you to hook nos up to it. 302's are cheap kits and parts are easy to find.
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Old 06-04-2004, 04:58 PM   #4
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It has so much power it's illegal to drive on the street. .
Exacly how much Hp are we looking at here?
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Old 06-04-2004, 05:21 PM   #5
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Exacly how much Hp are we looking at here?
Havn't dynoed it yet but i am sure it's alot. I know it is over 500hp for sure. That is the hp limit for cars in my state or that's what i was told. The insurance agent laughed at me when i wanted to insure it, so it sits in our shop. When we got done i was 16. the insurance was about $350 a month and i had to pay my own insurance. so i bought $200 beater car. So i could drive to school. I just know it's fast.
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wow......so i can beef the he|| outta it......i'm so happy....someone laughed at me at school cuse i said i wanted to beef it up, so i started having doubts.....anyway.....kewl....thanks...when i do get it and beef it up...i'll throw some pics up and let ya'll know how it went

thanks a lot
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Old 06-04-2004, 08:39 PM   #7
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Havn't dynoed it yet but i am sure it's alot. I know it is over 500hp for sure. That is the hp limit for cars in my state or that's what i was told. The insurance agent laughed at me when i wanted to insure it, so it sits in our shop. When we got done i was 16. the insurance was about $350 a month and i had to pay my own insurance. so i bought $200 beater car. So i could drive to school. I just know it's fast.

You have a limit on max BHP?? That SUCKS!!!

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wow......so i can beef the he|| outta it......i'm so happy....someone laughed at me at school cuse i said i wanted to beef it up, so i started having doubts.....anyway.....kewl....thanks...when i do get it and beef it up...i'll throw some pics up and let ya'll know how it went

thanks a lot

Good luck man.. Hope it goes well.. Looking forward to the pics!!
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wow......so i can beef the he|| outta it......i'm so happy....someone laughed at me at school cuse i said i wanted to beef it up, so i started having doubts.....anyway.....kewl....thanks...when i do get it and beef it up...i'll throw some pics up and let ya'll know how it went

thanks a lot
Yeh Alot i did some looking on the net there are lots of site. Just look for "Ford engine specs" you will find lots of sites. The base hp for our engine is about 435hp without the blower and extras. I have always loved mustangs i am going to try and find a Shelby GT but they are hard to find. Believe it or Not - Ford produced one of the first domestic rear engine production cars in 1971 called the Pantera. It had a modified 302. The best advatage was that the weight was on the rear tire so it stuck to the race track and lots of room for other mods or bigger engines.
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Yeh Alot i did some looking on the net there are lots of site. Just look for "Ford engine specs" you will find lots of sites. The base hp for our engine is about 435hp without the blower and extras. I have always loved mustangs i am going to try and find a Shelby GT but they are hard to find. Believe it or Not - Ford produced one of the first domestic rear engine production cars in 1971 called the Pantera. It had a modified 302. The best advatage was that the weight was on the rear tire so it stuck to the race track and lots of room for other mods or bigger engines.

Was it rear or mid engined?
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Was it rear or mid engined?

It was a rear engine. It was designed by De Tomaso if you don't know who that is...you might reconise the similarites of the Lamborgini and Farrari.

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Old 06-09-2004, 08:07 PM   #11
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Hey Damage Inc.

Stay away from anything bigger than a 351 Windsor...nothing else will fit UNLESS you do some serious work to the inner-fenderwells and relocate some suspension components. A buddy of mine in high school had a '66 notch back stang with the 289 2bbl in it....it was a dog. I helped him slap on a good 4bbl intake as well as a holley 4bbl 600cfm carb and a cam...he put on full length headers as well as a 2.5" dual exhaust system. Needless to say he went from running high 17's to low high 14's with stock gearing and a whooped C4 trans. The car was still very streetable, he did have a little problem getting off the line but then again he had a stock torque converter with that nasty cam. It's all about parts selection...don't fall into the "bigger is better" trap. If you match your cam to your intake/carb as well as your headers size and primary tube length you can make some good hp out of that little 289.

Also...ford racing performance sells a slew of 5.0L crate engines that will bolt right in, all you'll have to do is put on an intake/carb, headers, and an ignition system. That's probably the cheapest and easiest way to go.

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Well one thing is for sure..... get rid of the 289! I like what Cliffy had to say and think that would be a great idea.

Also sorry whoever it is that had the restriction on HP. Is that a state ordinance or just the fact that you can't get the car insured?
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It was a rear engine. It was designed by De Tomaso if you don't know who that is...you might reconise the similarites of the Lamborgini and Farrari.



Right yes, sorry my brain wasnt engaged, venturi 260 is another similar werid creation
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I have yet to see a state with illegal hp statutes. I've BUILT big block Fords (a number of 460s) including street engines with over 600 hp and 700 lb ft of torque. Not only were they not illegal, they weren't even unstreetable.



Now, that engine might be illegal in a street car if the car you put it in is newer than, say, '78 or so in an emissions testing state, but other than that, there isn't a state that says you can't have a 500+ hp car on the street. Especially in a '66 Mustang.


You can make decent power from teh 289, but swapping to a 302 is a bolt in, and it's very easy to get huge power from a 302. Dropping anything larger than a 302 in an early Mustang requires some sheetmetal work to the shock towers. Even the 351W is tight in a '65 (though it's been done many times).
The chassis was changed slightly in '67 to allow the 390/427/428 to fit, but that's a tight fit.
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Old 06-20-2004, 10:50 AM   #15
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I have yet to see a state with illegal hp statutes. I've BUILT big block Fords (a number of 460s) including street engines with over 600 hp and 700 lb ft of torque. Not only were they not illegal, they weren't even unstreetable.



Now, that engine might be illegal in a street car if the car you put it in is newer than, say, '78 or so in an emissions testing state, but other than that, there isn't a state that says you can't have a 500+ hp car on the street. Especially in a '66 Mustang.


You can make decent power from teh 289, but swapping to a 302 is a bolt in, and it's very easy to get huge power from a 302. Dropping anything larger than a 302 in an early Mustang requires some sheetmetal work to the shock towers. Even the 351W is tight in a '65 (though it's been done many times).
The chassis was changed slightly in '67 to allow the 390/427/428 to fit, but that's a tight fit.

I am starting to think it is an insurance risk to the companies. I don't see any many people driving high hp cars around in my town. I am investigating the matter now that you said that it's not illegal.
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