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Old 06-15-2004, 05:42 PM   #1
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'99 Toyota Tercel or a Ford Focus?

I'm looking to purchase a used vehicle and I was hoping to get some opinions on which is a better buy. I have read a lot of reviews on the Toyota Tercel CE. They all say that it is a really reliable car, and cheap on gas. But I've also read some good reviews on the Ford Focus. Personally, I am more inclined to go for a Toyota because I know that they are generally a very good car. My Dad had a Toyota Tercel Wagon that lasted him for 14 years. But I wanted to get some other people's opinions. Also, does anyone know aprox. what insurance costs for the two vehicles? I have tried to get insurance quotes but it has been such a hassle if you don't actually own the vehicle. Thanks.
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:39 PM   #2
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Simply put, stay away from teh '00, and '01 Focus models, unless AL th recall work has been done. the '02-04s models havne't had teh issues that plagued teh first year cars, but they are still kind of cheap compared to the Toyotas (though the Ce is a really basic car, too) . Styling is subjective, and I like the Focus better for that. Driving dynamics are better in the Focus, and it feels less like an appliance.

Still as an overall first car purchase, I'd steer toward the Tercel, and do some personlaizing and upgrading, just to make it less bland.

What kind of price range are you looking at?
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Old 06-15-2004, 07:00 PM   #3
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Tercel... I dont trust Focuses... one rolled on the Editor and his minions in Automobile when they were writing a story on it... they went into a ditch!
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Old 06-15-2004, 07:59 PM   #4
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Myself civic but Toyotas are good to. Everyone I know that has had a Toyota
the steel ends up rusting and rotting before any mechanical problems start.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:40 PM   #5
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id personnaly go for the focus, they are both ugly cars.. and maybe toyota tercel is more reliable, but i think the tercel is much uglier.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:40 PM   #6
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Tercel... I dont trust Focuses... one rolled on the Editor and his minions in Automobile when they were writing a story on it... they went into a ditch!




And yet they don't roll under hard cornering in stock form in autocross. How odd. Maybe the people at the magazine did something stupid?

I watched a driver in an Accord roll his car over swerving to the median on I5 south of Seattle. Accords must be bad!
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Old 06-19-2004, 08:08 PM   #7
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i like the focus WAY better than the tercel. It's sportier by a mile, and some judge a book by its cover.
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Old 06-23-2004, 12:57 AM   #8
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Here in Germany the Focus has reached a top ranking in a reliability research done by a car club. It was almost as good as the Toyotas. (But this is only for the Focuses that where built here in Germany, the USA one's are built somewhere in South-America I think, so I won't put my hand in the fire for this ones!)

If you where a European I would tell you to buy this car, but it is not available in the US, although it is built by a GM Company:

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Old 06-23-2004, 06:57 AM   #9
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Here in Germany the Focus has reached a top ranking in a reliability research done by a car club. It was almost as good as the Toyotas. (But this is only for the Focuses that where built here in Germany, the USA one's are built somewhere in South-America I think, so I won't put my hand in the fire for this ones!)

If you where a European I would tell you to buy this car, but it is not available in the US, although it is built by a GM Company:


In response, I am a big fan of Opel... and I am a fan of their cars and I can speak on them with absolutely no authority whatsoever.... but you do have to watch out for GM.... but about the subject at hand.
Personally, I would lean towards the Ford Focus. Their reliability has been--- average. On the other hand, Toyota has a spotless record for impeccable reliability- if that's a major concern. The Tercel really is an ugly piece of machinery, though... not to say that the Ford Focus is all that attractive, either. Also, depending on your intentions for the car, you may lean one way or another. There are certainly more parts available for the Focus, if you are looking to tune. Either way, I might reccommend you look elsewhere- something more liveable, perhaps. For the price of a Focus, you could get something much nicer with more years on it from Honda or Toyota that is going to bring you the same amount, if not less headaches. And there's my six pence.
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Old 06-24-2004, 12:32 AM   #10
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I'll put it like this, the '99-01 focus had over 13 recalls since it was introduced. enough said
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Old 06-24-2004, 11:00 AM   #11
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Why do people always say, that if a car has a lot of recalls it is a bad car?

Surely you can tell that the recalls make the Cars better, than they were before.

When a car has had no recalls, it can be a bad car too! It just means, that the manufacturer of the car is willing to make his cars better than they were before!
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Old 06-24-2004, 05:09 PM   #12
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Generally, when a car has that many recalls there is definetly something wrong with either the way it was designed, built, or perhaps even both. To say that a car with double digit recalls is a "well built" car is ludicrous.
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Generally, when a car has that many recalls there is definetly something wrong with either the way it was designed, built, or perhaps even both. To say that a car with double digit recalls is a "well built" car is ludicrous.

If you include Safety, General, and Service Bulletins, my guess is that all cars easily get into the double-digits.

BTW...double-digits begins at 10.
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Old 06-24-2004, 06:39 PM   #14
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Ummmm... thx?
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Ummmm... thx?

Maybe you meant above 60 or something?...
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