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Old 12-03-2005, 08:02 AM   #1
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Question Tricks for Winter Traction

So I need advice, other then the standard get a winter car.
As you know I drive a Fiero, and I’m having a little trouble (not much) keeping it on the road on the days it snows. I’m thinking weighing down the car a bit would help. You may or may not know the engine is over the rear tires, so that’s a + for me, I also have a trunk behind the engine, so I’m thinking of putting something heavy there. Only prob is I don’t know what or how much. I was thinking if I could add 200 – 300 LBS back there Id be more then capable of getting traction. I was also thinking that my front compartment (sits over the front tires) could afford to have an extra 100-200 lbs as well.

So what I really need is something heavy yet compact. I was thinking lead ball bearings… but I have a feeling these will be expensive.

What do you guys suggest?
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:05 AM   #2
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I know alot of people will use either bricks/concrete blocks or sand bags (see bricks alot in trucks). So really I can only think of those 2 things... and you'd probably get more sand then bricks are it's more compact.... and probably cheaper.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:09 AM   #3
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I know alot of people will use either bricks/concrete blocks or sand bags (see bricks alot in trucks). So really I can only think of those 2 things... and you'd probably get more sand then bricks are it's more compact.... and probably cheaper.

Ya I was thinking sand too, but how big is a say a 50 lb bag of sand?
Id want to fit 4 of those into a space about 2' x 1' x 3' .
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:25 AM   #4
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I just put snow tires on the front of my car, and its amazing how good traction they get. It just started snowing here, and I had baldies in the back, so I did a little rotation. Plus I got 48% off for two winter tires at work...not too shabby...
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:54 AM   #5
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how about some weights or like cement bags haha they are heavy but can't get water on them. Also do you think your car can handle all that extra weight on the suspension.
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:54 AM   #6
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I wouldn't recommend putting weight in the back...could cause oversteer, and it happens a lot in the older MR2's...it would probably be safer to get winter tires...
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Old 12-03-2005, 09:26 AM   #7
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I would imagine that adding even more weight in the rear will cause severe understeer in the winter...just get agressive winter tires and don't make any extreme throttle or brake inputs.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:14 AM   #8
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if its RWD, throw a couple bags of salt in the back....20kg each, which is like 44lbs or some shit like that...

If its FWD, throw it in the front...



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Old 12-03-2005, 03:01 PM   #9
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Hey dodger if the engine is in the back, which tires do you think get the power

As far as the understeer or the suspention question, same answer.
The car has brand new KYB shocks and struts and an up graded rack in pinion steering (2 turns lock to lock).


But weights sound like a great idea... I could easily put a couple 100lb dumb bells in the back of it... sweet.


My real prob is because the car only weighs 2300lbs... the previous owner put in an aluminum engine cradle instead of the stock steal one so its about 400lbs less (give or take)then the 2700lbs the car normally weights (84s were the lightest Fieros produced)
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Old 12-03-2005, 07:07 PM   #10
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2300lb car with a V8? What the hell does that thing run in the 1/4?
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Old 12-03-2005, 08:26 PM   #11
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2300lb car with a V8? What the hell does that thing run in the 1/4?

13.03 @ 104MPH
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Old 12-03-2005, 10:24 PM   #12
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That's suprisingly slow. My cousin's old LT-1 camaro(AT) ran 13.5's all day with no more than a CAI and a cat back. That car weighs easily 1,000lbs more than yours.
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Old 12-03-2005, 11:35 PM   #13
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That's suprisingly slow. My cousin's old LT-1 camaro(AT) ran 13.5's all day with no more than a CAI and a cat back. That car weighs easily 1,000lbs more than yours.

My 350 TPI only has 255 HP
The LT1 is easy 300+ HP...
But to give you an idea, the engine is out of an 89 Trans AM GTA, that car only ran 14.5's taking off that 1k lbs and 2 things off the belt (fan, and power steering). Gave me over 1 sec in the 1/4. And that Id say is impressive.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:13 AM   #14
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Well, the '97 LT-1 in a Camaro was rated for 275hp. I'm not trying to rag on your car, personally I think it's sweet. Hell, it's faster than my car(for a little while anyway ).

Do you know your axle ratio? The MPH is also very low for that kinda E.T., especially in that light of a car...there are a lot of factors that could play into that.
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:32 AM   #15
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Move down to the south, hell, it's still in the mid 60s in southern LA. NEver have to worry about snow
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