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Old 04-24-2005, 12:41 AM   #1
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a newbie to driving a stick

i'm new to driving a stick, i'm wondering whats a good way to shift on racing with a rsx premium?........or just shift to make the car accelerate faster
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Old 04-24-2005, 12:53 AM   #2
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i'm new to driving a stick, i'm wondering whats a good way to shift on racing with a rsx premium?........or just shift to make the car accelerate faster
high rpms
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Old 04-24-2005, 01:28 AM   #3
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1. You're new to driving, let alone racing. You shouldn't be taking the car above 3500 RPMs, let alone to red line. Wait for 6 months until you start pushing your car to the edge.

2. To get a bigger boost from shifting, you can do something called a non-lift throttle shift. Basically, you keep your right foot to the floor so that the RPMs don't drop, and shift. Your 0-60 time can drop by a half second, and your quarter by a full second. It wears heavily on your transmission and clutch and engine, so I don't recommend doing it.

3. I'm presuming your racing on a track, because racing on the street is going to get you nowhere but dead. Also, other's also die in your zeal for danger and adrenaline. DO NOT STREET RACE. I'm sure there's drag strip within 30 minutes of your house. Do not street race.
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Old 04-24-2005, 12:19 PM   #4
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1)Engage clutch
2)Select gear
3)Release clutch
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Old 04-24-2005, 06:17 PM   #5
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1)Engage clutch
2)Select gear
3)Release clutch

4)Stall engine

No gas required

He's asking about how he can catch up to another racer by shifting correctly/getting more power out fo the shift.....I think
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shift on racing with a rsx premium?........

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Old 04-24-2005, 08:37 PM   #6
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i'm new to driving a stick, i'm wondering whats a good way to shift on racing with a rsx premium?........or just shift to make the car accelerate faster


figure out where your power band is
it's a stupid, expensive myth that the best place to shift is at redline.
so find out where your torque peaks, and shift there.
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Old 04-24-2005, 09:17 PM   #7
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figure out where your power band is
it's a stupid, expensive myth that the best place to shift is at redline.
so find out where your torque peaks, and shift there.

NO you should never ever shift at your torque peak! The best place to shift is your horsepower peak to get more torque on your next gear.
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Old 04-25-2005, 04:30 AM   #8
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im pretty sure its at the torque peak ill do some research, i never really push my car, ive done some laps in a large parking lot behind my work with my mates, i just shift when it sounds right i dont really wait for the limit of torque or hp, just when i feel like it

edit: i have some random mitsubishi, i dont know what its called, i got it from my brothers brother in-law.
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Old 04-28-2005, 02:14 AM   #9
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I wouldn't be racing if you are new to a stick. We don't want you to blow the clutch on the down shifts.
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Old 04-28-2005, 10:54 PM   #10
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i'm new to driving a stick, i'm wondering whats a good way to shift on racing with a rsx premium?........or just shift to make the car accelerate faster

Do some research and find out where your max HP and Torque are and then experiment with where you shift
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:57 PM   #11
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NO you should never ever shift at your torque peak! The best place to shift is your horsepower peak to get more torque on your next gear.

CarEXPERT got it right!!!!

Yes, you shift at your power peak, not your torque peak, to maximize torwue to the ground vs the next gear up, due to the multiplication factor of ratios.

A page that explains why:

http://www.allpar.com/eek/hp-vs-torque.html

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The classic mistake is to conclude that the fastest way down, let's say, a 1/4 mile drag strip is to keep the engine RPM at the torque peak (or as close as possible). The technique is usually stated as "shift just after the torque peak", or "shift N RPM above the torque peak so you are N RPM below the torque peak in the next gear when you finish the shift".

Unfortunately, *engine* torque does not tell you the full story. What matters is the torque *delivered to the tires*, including the effects of the transmission. We all know a car does not accelerate as hard in second gear at peak torque RPM as it does in first gear. The transmission amplifies or multiplies the torque coming from the engine by a factor equal to the gear ratio. So to determine how much the car is accelerating at a particular instant, you have to know both the torque output of the engine as well as the gear ratio.
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Old 04-29-2005, 02:58 PM   #12
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figure out where your power band is
it's a stupid, expensive myth that the best place to shift is at redline.
so find out where your torque peaks, and shift there.

No, the myth, as has been explained, is to shift at the torque peak.
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Old 04-30-2005, 08:16 AM   #13
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So, I should find out at what rpm the max hp is at? For example carsdirect.com says my 2003 Lancer ES has 120 hp. I need to find out what rpm it has that hp at, and shift there, right? Is there a website that shows what rpm the max hp is at for certain cars? I remember seeing it somewhere when I was looking at different cars' stats but I forgot where it was...

Can't seem to find it on carsdirect...maybe its cuz its past midnight and I just can't find it...
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Old 04-30-2005, 10:29 AM   #14
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will you be able to find the hp peak on a dyno? is there any other methods?
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I think that's what a dyno is built for
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