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Old 12-12-2004, 07:13 AM   #16
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It is possible to get a true muscle car for under 6k. If the car is restored than obviously it can be more than 6k. But a muscle car with minor problems can be cheap. Possible choices could include (depending on if you have a preference) Chevrolet Nova SS, Ford Mustang (GT or Mach), Mercury Cougar, Plymouth Duster, Pontiac Firebird. These are of course in no particular order.

EDIT: I would also like to add that if your a responsible person than a muscle car could be for you regardless of age.

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Old 12-15-2004, 08:34 PM   #17
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For me and muscle cars, it's mopar or no car. I bought my 440 powered Satellite when I was the ripe old age of 16. I've had it for a couple of years now and have had no problems. I respect the car and the work I have put into it, and never feel scared of crashing it. Then agian, I don't do too stupid of things on public roads. One of my closest buddys can't even be trusted with an old beat up ltd though, so it depends person to person. I've got my daytona as my winter driver, and my satellite for spring summer and fall. To me, mopar muscle looks the best and were the only ones to make a real full sized muscle car, plus so many people drive the chevys, and I like something different. But if you want the best bang for your buck, chevys are the cheapest. Everyone and his dog has a 350, and they are just about the best engines hp per $. Their transmissions aren't the best, and their motors aren't as strong stock as mopar engines though. You can only really decide when you pick which brand you want. Just keep in mind that a Hemi RoadRunner or a Yenko Camaro or something is not going to be withing your price range.

Your 440 Satellite sounds like a nice car. I'm currently looking for another musclecar and a '68-'69 440 Roadrunner or Superbee is on my short list. I wanted to clear up a couple of errors in your post, though;
- although the term "full size musclecar" is a bit of an oxymoron since the original definition of a musclecar is a mid-size car with a large displacement motor, several companies made full size - full performance cars including, the Impala 427 Z-11, Impala 409 425hp, Galaxy 406 406hp, Pontiac Grand Prix 421SD, etc. Up until '64 the full size cars were the highest performance cars available.
- GM transmissions, particularly the TH400 is one of the stoutest auto transmissions ever built. It is considered the equivalent to the Dodge 727 torqueflight and Ford C-6 trannies. In manual transmission applications the Muncie M-20,21 and especially the M-22 rockcrusher were also considered some of the best trannies available.
- All manufacturers made some pretty strong stock motors in the late '60's and early '70's. The statement that Chev motors "aren't as strong stock" as dodge motors is somewhat misleading. The 427 L-88 had more power than a Chrysler 426 street hemi and the '70 LT-1 had more power than a 340 6-pak. Depends what motors your talking about. Other strong GM motors include;
Pontiac's 400 RAIV, Chev's 454 LS-6, Oldsmobiles 455 W-30 and Buick's 455 Stage I.

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ps. I miss my 1970 442 W-30.
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Old 12-16-2004, 06:23 AM   #18
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I don't know about everybody else here and don't know your preferances, BUT in my opinion you should go for a 1973-1977 GM A-body (chevelle, monte carlo, el camino, regal, century, cutlass). These cars are easily affordable for $6K and under depending on what condition they are in. You can find a pretty decent one for around $2000. They make good drivers and have lots of potential. There is so much you can do with these cars to make them fast, but people prefer to not consider them for the following reasons:

1) They are heavy (depends on which car you get)
2) Emissions equipment (if you go for '75 and newer)
3) Reproduction parts and NOS (new old stock) parts are very hard to find. More than likely a wrecking yard and ebay will be your best friend.

You should check out the April 2003 and June 2003 issues of Car Craft and the September 2004 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines. The April 2003 issue of Car Craft features a 73 Chevelle, the June 2003 issue of Car Craft features a 75 Malibu and the September 2004 issue of Hemmings Muscle Machines feature a 73 Chevelle SS-454 and a 76 Cutlass 442. Check them out. Maybe you'll feel some inspiration.

If you get a 73-77 GM A-body, I recommend a 73 or 74 because they are the years before Catalytic converters were mandated. Unless out live in a county/city that doesn't requirre DEQ. I am currently in the process of modifying my '76 Monte Carlo. Last year I dropped in a 300+ horsepower 350 V8 and had the transmission rebuilt. I removed the A/C and lighened the load 90-lbs. This winter I will be getting the rear end done with an Eaton posi and 3.73 gears and the exhaust done with a Flowmaster 2.5-inch American Thunder dual system and DynoMax headers. This car makes an awesome driver. It has been my driver for the past 4 1/2 years. Insurance isn't bad either for $91/mo with liability and comp. coverage. I will be 23 in 3 days and am listed as a full time driver.

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NO! disgusting, you cant really be serious that you want this kid to get a post '71 car and call it muscle....Go with a GM car and stay pre 1971, you'll go good places, trust me, i love my 2 pre '70s cars... and hey, im only 16....
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Old 12-16-2004, 05:47 PM   #19
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Ill put it this way.. Get a smaller car first, I have a 1992 Geo Prism that was givin to me by my grandmother when i was 15, AFTER a year or so, my parets and i decieded to split the cost of my camaro (1500 dollars, few problems with it, manyly the choke and timing) It pays to learn how to drive a smaller car before you get a musscle car.

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Old 12-19-2004, 07:16 AM   #20
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NO! disgusting, you cant really be serious that you want this kid to get a post '71 car and call it muscle....Go with a GM car and stay pre 1971, you'll go good places, trust me, i love my 2 pre '70s cars... and hey, im only 16....

Why would I post it and not be serious? They can be easily built to go just as fast as a pre-72 muscle car. There is nothing wrong with owning a 73-77 GM A-body. Only muscle car "puritists" (sp?) see something wrong with them. If they were so bad, why did they sell so well? What places could you go with pre-71 that you couldn't go with 73-77 A-bodies? I would like to know what pre-1970 cars you do own.
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Old 12-22-2004, 08:48 PM   #21
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Why would I post it and not be serious? They can be easily built to go just as fast as a pre-72 muscle car. There is nothing wrong with owning a 73-77 GM A-body. Only muscle car "puritists" (sp?) see something wrong with them. If they were so bad, why did they sell so well? What places could you go with pre-71 that you couldn't go with 73-77 A-bodies? I would like to know what pre-1970 cars you do own.


I agree. I grew up during that period, and I know that any RWD, V8, domestic sedan/coupe can easily be as much a musclecar as the pre '72's.

This one, for example, was one I had for a while...



I'm thinking a car like these are as much Domestic Muscle as anything pre'72:








At least if you are trying to build up a relatively inexpensive musclecar, these are viable places to look.
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Old 12-22-2004, 10:45 PM   #22
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I agree. I grew up during that period, and I know that any RWD, V8, domestic sedan/coupe can easily be as much a musclecar as the pre '72's.

This one, for example, was one I had for a while...



At least if you are trying to build up a relatively inexpensive musclecar, these are viable places to look.

NICE! I love it! What is that? Not a GP... Lemans?

Here's a pic of a '74 Monte I found on take-off...
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Old 12-23-2004, 05:31 PM   #23
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NICE! I love it! What is that? Not a GP... Lemans?


It's a '76 Grand Le Mans. Not exactly stock... 455 and TH400. Nice luxury cruiser with a lot of punch. Hard to find anymore, however...
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Old 12-25-2004, 11:04 PM   #24
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It's a '76 Grand Le Mans. Not exactly stock... 455 and TH400. Nice luxury cruiser with a lot of punch. Hard to find anymore, however...

Sure looks good doing the burnout. Most, if not all of, the 73-77 GM A-bodies are nice luxury cruisers. Being hard to find makes them stand out more than new cars or "main stream" classics.
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Old 12-25-2004, 11:17 PM   #25
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go with a 1984 to 1992 mustang GT they nice cars and lots of mods for them and the 302 which in my own head is one of the best ford engines ever.
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Old 12-27-2004, 07:08 AM   #26
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i am 18 with a 1978 corvette. but trust me, she is high maintainance. although well worth it. she is a real beauty.

if i were you i would go for a hot nova. look for late 60s early 70s. fastbacks are my favorite. those cars are beautiful and with a few bucks they can be a rocket. good luck.
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Old 12-31-2004, 10:21 PM   #27
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i think it was the 88 camaro, drives nice and right now i have a 1991 bronco damn it, i cant belive a have a shitty pick up

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Old 12-31-2004, 10:23 PM   #28
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:55 AM   #29
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2002 Bronco? LMAO.
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Old 01-01-2005, 02:56 AM   #30
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i think it was the 88 camaro, drives nice and right now i have a 2002 bronco damn it, i cant belive a have a shitty pick up
That is not a 2002 Bronco, just no. If there is one, that sure as hell aint it.
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