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Old 03-15-2005, 11:13 PM   #16
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Maybe you should slow down and repeat that question in your head veryslowly. If you stil can't conclude why anyone would want to hide a nitrous setup then I don't think you should have written this article...


The only reason i can think of is that you can use it woithout having others know. Which is pointless, because it's winning by cheating, there's no honor(need better word here) in the win, it's an empty win, because you did cheat.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:13 AM   #17
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Also, I watched the fast and the furious yesterday (it's painful to watch now that I know a fair amount about cars), and in it, when the jetta races the s2000, the jetta uses N20 and the azn behind the jetta says, "too soon". There is no "too soon" to use nitrous, using it from the launch is the best idea.


I guess staging nitrous is pointless then.
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Old 03-17-2005, 12:32 AM   #18
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The only reason i can think of is that you can use it woithout having others know. Which is pointless, because it's winning by cheating, there's no honor(need better word here) in the win, it's an empty win, because you did cheat.

Nothing in heads up racing is cheating. I don't care what way you put it. Your opposition has just as much chance to buy a nitrous setup as you do. Element of surprise is more than a trick, its a learned skilll....
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Old 03-17-2005, 12:53 AM   #19
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Yeah, i agree with DSMer since other racers have the opportunity to buy and install N2O on THEIR cars, then it is not cheating.
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Old 03-20-2005, 12:54 AM   #20
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Ew nitrous is icky. HAHA. But really..I dont like it. Not good for the motor. It reminds me of drag racing a turbo charged automatic with NOS. Oh and i call it NOS. Not refering to the name brand. But really if you think about it. no matter who makes it. It is a Nitrous Oxide System. So nos is easier to say and it fits it no matter who the manufacturer is. But yeah. Ill never run it on any of my cars. The only thing cool about nos is the nitrous purge valve
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Old 03-20-2005, 01:14 AM   #21
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Ew nitrous is icky. HAHA. But really..I dont like it. Not good for the motor. It reminds me of drag racing a turbo charged automatic with NOS. Oh and i call it NOS. Not refering to the name brand. But really if you think about it. no matter who makes it. It is a Nitrous Oxide System. So nos is easier to say and it fits it no matter who the manufacturer is. But yeah. Ill never run it on any of my cars. The only thing cool about nos is the nitrous purge valve

The purge valve is gay and for show cars. No wonder you dont like nitrous for engine use cause your a person who is into show than go.
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Old 03-20-2005, 01:20 AM   #22
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not exactly. i dont like it because it fry's motors. it burns extremely hot which kills things. Im not into cheap power at the expense of my motor. and i was joking about the purge valve. i will never have nitrous on any car i own.
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not exactly. i dont like it because it fry's motors. it burns extremely hot which kills things. Im not into cheap power at the expense of my motor. and i was joking about the purge valve. i will never have nitrous on any car i own.

It only frys motors if you dont know how to use it. Remember you always have to add extra fuel and keep the nitrous/fuel ratio at 5.5:1 to keep it running cool. If you dont, the extra oxygen will not get burned and will oxidize the cylinder walls. Running nitrous also has too much ignition advance cause the nitrous/fuel/air will burn much quicker than jus fuel/air wich is why nitrous can be dangerous. But like I said it can be safe if you know what your doing
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Old 03-20-2005, 01:29 AM   #24
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no matter what nitrous is going to burn hotter then fuel without it. thus it will ruin the motor faster. yes im sure you could do nitrous and make it less harmfull. but to me its a cheap way to go fast. id much rather go with a custom turbo or a na high compression motor like i have
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no matter what nitrous is going to burn hotter then fuel without it. thus it will ruin the motor faster. yes im sure you could do nitrous and make it less harmfull. but to me its a cheap way to go fast. id much rather go with a custom turbo or a na high compression motor like i have
Nitrous oxide by itself does not burn at all dumbass. N2O is oxygen rich which supports combustion... Assuming you have enough fuel. Get a clue and stop spreading your bullsh*t.
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Old 03-20-2005, 02:45 AM   #26
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Nitrous oxide by itself does not burn at all dumbass. N2O is oxygen rich which supports combustion... Assuming you have enough fuel. Get a clue and stop spreading your bullsh*t.

Bingo. Nitrous is classified as an oxidizer, not a fuel. I think this DTMBaller guy has watched the 'fast and the furious' series too many times. hell, he didn't even read the first part of my thread,
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N20 (two parts nitrogen, one part oxygen) is an oxidizer, not some form of a fuel.



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but to me its a cheap way to go fast

What's wrong with that? If anything, that's the goal in car tuning. everybody has the same opportunity to use it.

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It only frys motors if you dont know how to use it. Remember you always have to add extra fuel and keep the nitrous/fuel ratio at 5.5:1 to keep it running cool. If you dont, the extra oxygen will not get burned and will oxidize the cylinder walls. Running nitrous also has too much ignition advance cause the nitrous/fuel/air will burn much quicker than jus fuel/air wich is why nitrous can be dangerous. But like I said it can be safe if you know what your doing

Looks like you've been doing some research outside of car-forums, good for you, carexpert .
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Old 03-20-2005, 10:40 PM   #27
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no matter what nitrous is going to burn hotter then fuel without it. thus it will ruin the motor faster. yes im sure you could do nitrous and make it less harmfull. but to me its a cheap way to go fast. id much rather go with a custom turbo or a na high compression motor like i have


Re read. where do i say nitrous is a fuel. quit puting words in my mouth dipshit. and i wouldnt stoop as low as to put unneccesary exessive harm on my motor just to win a little streight line race.
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Old 03-20-2005, 10:44 PM   #28
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Re read. where do i say nitrous is a fuel. quit puting words in my mouth dipshit. and i wouldnt stoop as low as to put unneccesary exessive harm on my motor just to win a little streight line race.


You implied it. You don't know the first thing about racing.
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i didnt imply shit. you manipulated what i said to fit your twisted arguement. and your right. i dont waste my time with streight line racing. its fun to watch the top fuel drags but thats about it. i do know an excelent top fuel hydro mechanic who knows more then this whole forum combined. and he gave me a long lecture about nitrous.
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Old 03-20-2005, 11:00 PM   #30
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i didnt imply shit. you manipulated what i said to fit your twisted arguement. and your right. i dont waste my time with streight line racing. its fun to watch the top fuel drags but thats about it. i do know an excelent top fuel hydro mechanic who knows more then this whole forum combined. and he gave me a long lecture about nitrous.

Well if I'm included in the forum that is one very impressive mechanic.
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