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Old 04-09-2005, 02:26 AM   #1
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Oldsmobile 442 info.

Okay, i found an old Olds 442 today and went to talk to the owner to see if it was for sale, he was sleeping and his wife and daughter only knew that its been siting for awhile. they dont know if it runs or not either, but i got the phone number but was told to wait till Monday before i call so i thought i'd try to find out some information on 442's before then. It needs some minor body work and a new vinyl top but thats about all i know for now. I was just wondering what some of the options you could get for them were and what engine sizes you could get in them? Does the stripe running down the front fenders infront of the doors mean anything? How much would one of these be worth? Remember, its not in the best shape (i'll try to get pics next time i see it). I was just trying to look for performance packages, body parts, engine sizes and other options you could get for the car. It's a 1968 two door hard top (vinyl). Any info you can help with would be appreciated. Thanx. Hope what i said makes sense lol.

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Old 04-09-2005, 02:54 AM   #2
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Okay, i was just looking for the history on 442's and it said there is only like two engine sizes but they vary in BHP, how is that? It's the 400 V8 (multiple versions) and the 455 V8. Engine specs below.

Engines:
(L66) 400 V8 290 bhp @ 4600 rpm, 425 lb-ft @ 2600 bhp.
400 V8 350 bhp @ 5000 rpm, 440 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm. (Manual transmission)
400 V8 325 bhp @ 5000 rpm, 440 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm. (Automatic transmission)
(W-30) 400 V8 360 bhp @ 5000 rpm, 440lb-ft @ 3600 rpm.
(Hurst/Olds) 455 V8 390 bhp @ 5000rpm, 500 lb-ft @ 3200 rpm.
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Old 04-09-2005, 04:18 AM   #3
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Scan through the listed 68's here. You can probably find every option/combination that was available. Eat your heart out. Great cars.
http://www.cars-on-line.com/oldsmobile.html
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:23 AM   #4
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The engine for '68 was the new 400 (destroked 455). Camshafts were different between the auto and manual, but they were otherwise the same. The high performance W-30 option (rare and valuable) consisted of a "select fit" bottom end, special heads, camshaft and forced air induction system with intakes under the bumper.

ratings were:
- 400 4bbl auto - 325hp
- 400 4bbl manual - 350hp
- 400 4bbl W-30 - 360hp

production figures;

- '68 442 = 36,641
'68 W-30 = 1911

There was no 455 offered until 1970, but Hurst tooled up and produced 515 455 powered Hurst Olds' that were (under)rated at 390hp. They were all grey w. black stripes (longitudinal) and had H/O badges on the front fenders and glovebox.

Transmissions available were the Muncie M-21, M-20 or TH400 auto.

If you see an abandoned H/O or W-30, buy it, but its far more likely to be one of the other 35,000 442's which are nice, well rounded musclecars.

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Old 04-09-2005, 06:35 AM   #5
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See also www.442.com and www.collectorcartraderonline.com

Oh and as far as worth is concerned;
according to my Old Car Price Guide a '68 442 2dr ht is worth a high of $21,000.00 in #1 condition (flawless) and a #4 condition (driver in need of complete resto) is worth $ 4,200.00. Add 30% for W-30 (more IMO) and a Hurst Olds is worth $38,000.00 in #1 condition.

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Old 04-11-2005, 02:28 AM   #6
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Okay thanx, that helps alot. I didnt get a good look at it but i know its Red on Black with a Black vinyl roof. Still a good car. Can never keep my mind made it up long though cause i usually find something new every week lol. Like today i saw behind a house a 1970-71 Oldsmobile Cutlass, 1968 Chevrolet Camaro, 1966 Pontiac GTO, 1965 Chevrolet ElCamino, 1956 Chevy (car), 195_? Chevrolet truck, and some others further back but couldnt see them. I would like to have either the Camaro or the GTO cause they look complete and are better in my opinion. Dont think i could afford either though, but there not in that bad shape by the looks of them. Keep in mind it was from about 15-20 feet away lol. Maybe check out there again and talk to the owner. But anyways thanx for the help and information, its greatly appreciated and i'll post on how it goes lol.
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I doubt this matters with regards to the original poster, but for those reading this I thought I should clarify an error in my first post.
the '68 Oldsmobile 400 was developed by reducing the Bore of the 455, not the stroke. Oldsmobile didn't want to retool for a new crank, so both engines share the same 4.25" stroke.

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This may be stupid but does that mean you can turn the 400 into a 455 by increasing the bore?
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This may be stupid but does that mean you can turn the 400 into a 455 by increasing the bore?

It's not a stupid question at all, but I'm afraid I don't know the answer off the top of my head. Mondello performance would know the answer to that question and I expect it will depend on whether there were corresponding changes to the block with regards to the coolant passages. I've never heard of anyone doing this, so my guess would be that the answer is no.

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Haha, okay thanx, i just thought i'd ask since you said the '68 Oldsmobile 400 was developed by reducing the Bore of the 455 that maybe it could become a 455 lol. I think the 400 would be big enough anyway. But thanx again for your help.
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Okay thanx, that helps alot. I didnt get a good look at it but i know its Red on Black with a Black vinyl roof. Still a good car. Can never keep my mind made it up long though cause i usually find something new every week lol. Like today i saw behind a house a 1970-71 Oldsmobile Cutlass, 1968 Chevrolet Camaro, 1966 Pontiac GTO, 1965 Chevrolet ElCamino, 1956 Chevy (car), 195_? Chevrolet truck, and some others further back but couldnt see them. I would like to have either the Camaro or the GTO cause they look complete and are better in my opinion. Dont think i could afford either though, but there not in that bad shape by the looks of them. Keep in mind it was from about 15-20 feet away lol. Maybe check out there again and talk to the owner. But anyways thanx for the help and information, its greatly appreciated and i'll post on how it goes lol.
I believe everything you posted. I just looked behind my house and found the same vehicles. What a thrill,,, I'm not sure of the 50? chevy truck. I'll keep you guys posted. I will let them go for CHEAP. I'm serious,cheap.SORRY,FORGOT THE LOL.
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Old 04-13-2005, 04:37 AM   #12
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Haha, that'd be pretty cool and lucky (i think) if it was true lol. I think the Camaro or the GTO would be the best (obviously). The guy must race cars cause he has a huge pile of old slicks on rims back there too, and some race car hoods. I'd love to have a yard full of old cars that i could SLOWLY restore, i say slowly cause i know it costs ALOT of money to do.
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