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Old 01-11-2005, 07:51 PM   #31
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You were wrong then, too. A production car is one that is in series production by a factory. Whether that's 27, 100, 100,000 doesn't matter.

The ONLY time it matters is in FIA racing, where "production" figures have to be satisfied for homologation rules. SOme classes put that at 10,000, some put it at 100. But the fact remains that there are no actual numbers other than series production by a factory to count as a "production" car.

So the 100 McLaren F1s count, and the Saleen S7 counts.


So why was the lanbourghini murcielgo considered the fastest production car when the enzo was in production?

I dunno. Somehow I figured that production cars were ones that were out there for a while, for the general public, like the civic and camry, etc etc.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:11 PM   #32
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So why was the lanbourghini murcielgo considered the fastest production car when the enzo was in production?

I dunno. Somehow I figured that production cars were ones that were out there for a while, for the general public, like the civic and camry, etc etc.

becaeu the Enzo's tested top speed was not as high as teh Murci's/ the Enzo was not designed for top speed, and had actually been toned down in that regard from the faster F40 and F50.

You figured wrong. the term production means series produced in any quantity that is not a prototype. As the example in the other thread indicated, should teh S200 not be considered a "prodution car" because it equals a mere 10% or less of Civic production figures?

The FIA tends to make the lowest number for series production stand at 50-100, depending on class (and some racing classes require more, thus homologation specials like the Escort Cosworth). DOT and EPA regs state less than 50 produced make you a smal lmanufacturer not needing to meet certain regulations. But that figure is stil considered production, just not MASS production.

Series producing multiple examples using tooling created to duplicate the example, and using interchangeable parts, make a car a production car, as it's being produced in numbers greater than 1 or two. Even the Vector W8 was considered a "production car" though there were only 25 made.
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Old 01-14-2005, 11:24 PM   #33
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Read what I said on this page;
http://www.car-forums.com/talk/showthread.php?t=8149

it's my second post down.
Not the New S7, the one that came out 2nd Quarter 2004.
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Old 01-17-2005, 07:10 AM   #34
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This is so obviously cutting and pasting. This can be easily determined by reading his other posts, which are done without regaurd to grammar or content. Stop plagarizing other people and stop being an arrogant (village) idiot.
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