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Old 03-12-2005, 11:10 AM   #31
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I think that in this thread a few people got served, but only a few got the answers they wanted becuase there was so much bickering going on. You both know what you know, your probabaly both professionals with 2 different professional opinions. Altought i must say that hunderburd has helped me a bunch with my car audio and waws definitely right about the choices to make.
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Old 03-13-2005, 05:26 PM   #32
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No its not an excuse, its your crutch for justifying why to use it other than admitting the truth and saying "I don't know shit about car audio so I just go on what I see professionals do". Wattage is'nt the greatest factor when deciding on how thick to go with a piece of wood. It really matters upon the size of the subwoofer and how much air can it actually move.

There is no standard, every box should be built to conform to the subwoofer and every subwoofer just does'nt need an 1" thick wood to house it. Even a 1" box can crack, it all depends on the builder and how they build it. You can't generalize a indefinite variable. Subs come in all different sizes, shapes, power ratings, etc... However, the most common size among audio setups are 3/4" MDF. That shit you see at the IASCA and USAC comps are all rich, fancy stuff. Your avearge audio guru is'nt going to have a 10,000 audio setup. Nore will they always use 1"MDF. I happen to work with a girl who holds the record for one of the loudest sport compact car in the US(she has an Eclipse GS-T). She used a series of 8 8" RE subs housed in a 3/4" ported box. Her level was somwhere abover 160DB's I don't remember the number, but 1" is'nt always the best application.

I'd have to warn some people take wieght into consideration of what goes into their trunk permanently. Not everyone wants a 250lb 1" box in their trunk...

Now I remember why I dont make a point with you -> .
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Old 03-13-2005, 10:23 PM   #33
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say im getting two audiobahn 15 in. subs with a peak of 4,000 and a RMS of 2,000. what would be the cheapest amp setup to push them.
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Old 03-15-2005, 01:46 AM   #34
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say im getting two audiobahn 15 in. subs with a peak of 4,000 and a RMS of 2,000. what would be the cheapest amp setup to push them.
NO!!!!! Audiopawn makes shitty stuff. They arent called chrome turds in the audio world for nothing. What's your budget for subs and i'll point you in the right direction.
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Old 03-15-2005, 01:49 AM   #35
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NO!!!!! Audiopawn makes shitty stuff. They arent called chrome turds in the audio world for nothing. What's your budget for subs and i'll point you in the right direction.


i just want two 15's with at least a max of 3,000 watts each.

i would spend no more than 300 each on them.

i have no idea what kind of amps to get.
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Old 03-15-2005, 02:15 AM   #36
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i just want two 15's with at least a max of 3,000 watts each.

i would spend no more than 300 each on them.

i have no idea what kind of amps to get.

Wattage doesnt mean shit. Some subs sound better with 300rms than others do with twice that power. It's how efficently the sub uses that power.

You could get some Digital Designs DD3515d's (what i have) for 300/piece. Some others to look into: Adire Brahma, Eclipse Aluminum, Image Dynamics IDMAX, Resonant Engineering XXX, Ascendant Audio Avalanche and Orion H2 are a few to start out with. As for amps, well, we'll get their after you pick a sub setup.
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Old 03-16-2005, 12:27 AM   #37
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Wattage doesnt mean shit. Some subs sound better with 300rms than others do with twice that power. It's how efficently the sub uses that power.

You could get some Digital Designs DD3515d's (what i have) for 300/piece. Some others to look into: Adire Brahma, Eclipse Aluminum, Image Dynamics IDMAX, Resonant Engineering XXX, Ascendant Audio Avalanche and Orion H2 are a few to start out with. As for amps, well, we'll get their after you pick a sub setup.


I think I'm gonna go with the Digital Designs 3500 series 15'" subs.

Now to the amps.

what website could I get the DD3500's, I can't find 'em anywhere but on the DD website.
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:53 AM   #38
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I think I'm gonna go with the Digital Designs 3500 series 15'" subs.

Now to the amps.

what website could I get the DD3500's, I can't find 'em anywhere but on the DD website.

You have to buy direct from DD. You'll pay about 30-40% off the listed MSRP price. If they try and sell it to you for MSRP tell them you wont pay that and they SHOULD take the price down 30% at least. I personally have the DD3515d's, you'll love them.

OKAY, amps... Since each DD3515d can handle 1000rms I'd throw them in a vented box (tuned to 45hz) and give them 2.5-3 cu-ft each to play with. As for powering them, look into getting a Hifonics BX1800D mono amp giving them about 900rms a piece. www.onlinecarstereo.com has this amp for an INCREDIBLE $299 (this amp has an MSRP of $800 and is worth every penny at that price). I'd pick it up fast for that price, they wont last long (reason why price is so low is because it's last years model).
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You have to buy direct from DD. You'll pay about 30-40% off the listed MSRP price. If they try and sell it to you for MSRP tell them you wont pay that and they SHOULD take the price down 30% at least. I personally have the DD3515d's, you'll love them.

OKAY, amps... Since each DD3515d can handle 1000rms I'd throw them in a vented box (tuned to 45hz) and give them 2.5-3 cu-ft each to play with. As for powering them, look into getting a Hifonics BX1800D mono amp giving them about 900rms a piece. www.onlinecarstereo.com has this amp for an INCREDIBLE $299 (this amp has an MSRP of $800 and is worth every penny at that price). I'd pick it up fast for that price, they wont last long (reason why price is so low is because it's last years model).


head unit? I need it to play MP3s
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Look into Eclipse (5000/8000 series), Alpine (9830 series), Panasonic (8000/9000 series) and Pioneer (800-900 series). All are about the same feature wise. It's up to you which one you like asthetically.
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Look into Eclipse (5000/8000 series), Alpine (9830 series), Panasonic (8000/9000 series) and Pioneer (800-900 series). All are about the same feature wise. It's up to you which one you like asthetically.


Thx a lot for all your help, I was one lost 14 year old in the way of car audio.

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Look into Eclipse (5000/8000 series), Alpine (9830 series), Panasonic (8000/9000 series) and Pioneer (800-900 series). All are about the same feature wise. It's up to you which one you like asthetically.



what kind of enclosure should I get thunderbird?
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Old 03-17-2005, 07:43 PM   #43
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what kind of enclosure should I get thunderbird?

Ported definatley. You really should build your own (it's not that difficult). But if you must by pre-fabbed get an Obcon or SubZero box.
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Old 03-21-2005, 10:30 AM   #44
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undefinedI have a 2000 Nissan Altima and recently put in 180 watt infinity 6 and a halfs. I am lookin to go top of the line...or atleast the limit to what my car can withstand. Im asking for help on the top 5 subs, remember money is not an option. The top amps would help...and im relatively new to the car audio so if u guys can help out a little on like settin me up with subs and tellin me how much amp power i will need, and compacitors and stuff. If i have to, I will spend 10 grand.Thanks

Hey Short. So far you have the right idea. Go to as many forums as you can. The more non-idiots you talk to the better. Since money is not an object you need to decide what kind of system you want. To me it sounds like you're looking for a system that will not only sound bad a$$, but will turn some heads and piss off the neighbors. There are alot of car audio companys out there. I would suggest Eclipse (by Fujitsu Ten) or you could go with JL, Kicker, Alpine, Audiobahn.... DO NOT get sony, pioneer, or kenwood For what you want to do it would just be a waste of money. You want to make sure your amps have class "D" circuitry.... gosh, if you're serious about this e-mail me, otherwise id be here all night. Put some thought into it.
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say im getting two audiobahn 15 in. subs with a peak of 4,000 and a RMS of 2,000. what would be the cheapest amp setup to push them.

you better be ready to lay down some serious cash if you want to push two 2,000 watt speakers. If you want cheap go to Ebay (of course).
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