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Old 02-10-2005, 09:07 PM   #1
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Question list of -'80 and up- RWD cars

Hey guys, first post on here. I'm trying to find a list of cars with RWD from like '80 till now. Tried looking on google but can't really find anything. Whole reason I'm asking is that I'm in the market to get a newer used car (4,000) but I love back wheel drive. I've got a '87 Toyota Corolla GTS that I'm in the middle of doing some body work on, currently driving a 90 Nissan 240 SX coupe that's back wheel drive as well, but at 175,000 I'm getting oil burning on one cylinder pretty bad. Not sure if I'm rebuilding it soon or just getting rid of it, body work isn't all that great but it's loaded with sun roof, so on and so on. I love it, but not sure if it's worth dumping money into it. Had a '82 chevette that was also back wheel drive and all three compaired to any front wheel drive car I've had where/ are WAY more fun to drive and easier to handle.

Anyway, just wondering if anyone knows a site to point me to or could list a couple here.

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Old 02-11-2005, 12:29 AM   #2
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well ehh that's gonna be a long list then

every real sportscar or muscle car

every bmw
mercedes
subaru
lexus

toyota supra
nissan 200sx, 240sx, skyline
alfa romeo 155
mitsubishi lancer

and a lot more
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Old 02-11-2005, 03:38 AM   #3
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well ehh that's gonna be a long list then

every real sportscar or muscle car

every bmw
mercedes
subaru AWD
lexus

toyota supra
nissan , 240sx, skyline, 200sx in us they're FWD
alfa romeo 155
mitsubishi lancer - FWD or AWD

and a lot more
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Old 02-11-2005, 08:07 AM   #4
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If I were you...I'd get myself a good condition KA24DE or search for a nice SR20DET...the 240SX is a great chassis...that just needs the right motor...I love the KA and it can be made to go fast w/a custom turbo kit that you can put together for around 1600 which would net you around 240rwhp at 6psi...so dont give up on it!

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Old 02-13-2005, 12:10 AM   #5
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Lots of American cars are RWD.

Caddilacs
Buicks


Camaro
Miata
RX-7
Supra
Nissan 300ZX
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Old 02-13-2005, 12:24 AM   #6
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Lots of American cars are RWD.

Caddilacs
Buicks


Camaro
Miata
RX-7
Supra
Nissan 300ZX

Is making a RWD car more expensive to make than FWD because FWD is easy.?!?
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:01 AM   #7
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Yea...for instance there's no driveshaft so FWD cars tend to be more spacious...ie your Honda Accord...it has no driveshaft running down the middle of the car so you can fit 3 in the back...
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:14 AM   #8
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Yea...for instance there's no driveshaft so FWD cars tend to be more spacious...ie your Honda Accord...it has no driveshaft running down the middle of the car so you can fit 3 in the back...

So does a FWD have a driveshaft? How do FWD get their power to the wheels?
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Old 02-13-2005, 02:54 AM   #9
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Old 02-13-2005, 05:00 AM   #10
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So does a FWD have a driveshaft? How do FWD get their power to the wheels?

No, FWD cars do not have a drive shaft. They get their power to wheels just like every other car on the road. They get the power via axles, or in this case a CV Axel. Instead of the axles being connected to the rear end they are connected directly to the transmission. (Well I'm sure that part they connect to has a specific name but for the simplicity of the question at hand we'll just say transmission)

They look something like this:
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Old 02-14-2005, 06:53 AM   #11
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Yea...for instance there's no driveshaft so FWD cars tend to be more spacious...ie your Honda Accord...it has no driveshaft running down the middle of the car so you can fit 3 in the back...


I'm not so sure about that last part. There are plenty of RWD cars that seat 3 in the back.

RWD also has more power loss because of the extra joints and such.
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Old 02-14-2005, 04:00 PM   #12
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RWD isn't more expensive to make than FWD. And the compact components of FWD can actually be more expensive than RWD parts, especially when it comes to things like the front hub that has to steer and deliver power. It used to be that all the cheapest cars were RWD, like Pintos, datsun B210s, Toyota Corollas, Opel Kadetts, etc. In a time when a Mustang or Torino cost $3500-4500, a cheap RWD Opel or Toyota cost $1500-1900.

FWD was developed for packaging. There were a few FWD cars gonig back to the '30s, but when the original Mini arrived, with a transverse FWD layout, it showd that the engine/transmission/drive axle setup could be compact and allow for a larger floor space for feet in a very tiny car. Even in a luxury car, the packaging made for more room in the front and a flatter rear floor.

FWD also became equated with safety: having the front wheels pull you around in bad weather was supposedly safer than having the rear wheels push you around.

For street cars that weren't to be driving at the outer limits of performance, it was easy to make FWD cars handle and accelerate as good as anything else, so it just made sense to spend the money to switch to that layout. It was assumed that it was too hard to put more than 250 hp through the front wheels, so cars with more powerful engines were left RWD, as were more traditional sports cars and GTs.
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Old 02-15-2005, 01:59 AM   #13
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not sure but i believe RWD's generally have beefier engines because they are not sitting on the transmission like in FWD cars. so there is more room under the hood
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Old 02-15-2005, 03:07 AM   #14
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It was assumed that it was too hard to put more than 250 hp through the front wheels, so cars with more powerful engines were left RWD, as were more traditional sports cars and GTs.

Not to mention that it is much easier to achieve a desirable weight distribution with a RWD layout.

(side note: The previous generation of Cadillacs put 300hp through the front wheels, so in excess of 250 is possible with the right engineering)

Excellent FWD Vs. RWD comparison:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...rticleId=43847
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No, FWD cars do not have a drive shaft. They get their power to wheels just like every other car on the road. They get the power via axles, or in this case a CV Axel. Instead of the axles being connected to the rear end they are connected directly to the transmission. (Well I'm sure that part they connect to has a specific name but for the simplicity of the question at hand we'll just say transmission)

They look something like this:

So why does the FWD can have a LSD when there is only one axle going from front wheel to tranny to other wheel. So does a FWD transverse engine have a tranny that have 2 outputs because one is output is controlling the other wheel and the other is controllingthe wheel oppositeof it?
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