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its actually quite an easy question. i was wondering if i was missing any other engine types in production cars other than those that i will mention below. so this is a quick and easy thread.



In-line: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8

V: 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 16

W: 8, 12, 16, 18

Flat/Boxer/H/Horizontally Opposed: twin, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12

Wankle Rotary: 2, 3, 4

Other: VR6, V5 (its just an inline with the pistons arranged at an angle, it was an odd explanation which i still dont get).



ok, some of the engines werent used in actual production cars, such as the F12 which was only used in race cars (as far as i know atleast). but thats everything ive heard of that has been used in a car. others were mainly used on very few cars (such as the V4 and V5), while others were mainly used in bikes (V-twins), but some cars had them (really compact ones). anymore additions and corrections or info on this?

posted by  Inygknok

I'm just going to comment on one thing. You can't have a V5 engine. V engines have an even # of cylinders for balance. The Acura Vigor had an I-5 engine as does the new Colorado truck.

posted by  thunderbird1100

there IS a V5 engine. ever bothered checking the VW V5 engine? its an inline 5 but the cylinders are arranged at an angle, and called the V5

posted by  Inygknok

Must have been a POS engine. Don't make them anymore. Probably was at a slight V angle, hard to make an engine balanced in a V arrangement when you have an odd # of cylinders. Probably why no manfacuturer has picked up on it. Just like no manfacuturer picked up on rotaries.

posted by  thunderbird1100

Sorry but there still a company that makes V5 engines. Volvo has them in their S40R, S60 and i believe the VC70

posted by  Coffin Type R

Ever heard of a little company called Mazda?

posted by  abless

actually, it IS still being produced and its not a bad engine at all. Here (http://www.vw.co.za/models/jetta/specs.php) is a link to one of the VW sites on Europe (or somewhere near it). it is found on the VW Bora (aka the Passat over here), and on the new Beetle Turbo S.


also, remember the VR6? its basically the same concept, only that its designed even better. its basically the combination of a V engine with an inline with a 15 degree angle. if u didnt know (which apparently u dont since u dismissed the V5 idea so promptly), the VR is a combination of the Vee (obviously of the V type engines) and the R is a German word meaning Reihenmotor, and both words combined and translated would pretty much mean "Vee in-line".

posted by  Inygknok

I checked Volvo's website and it said nothing of a V5 engine. Never said Inline either. But from what i grasp from the technical specs it looks to be an Inline engine.

posted by  thunderbird1100

Ever heard of DUH. Thought that would be implied since EVERYONE knows Mazda has had rotaries in some of their cars for over 2 decades now. My point was no OTHER manfacturer other than them has picked up on it.

posted by  thunderbird1100

You sure the U.S. gets that V5? I've never seen any VW with a true V engine. Thought we only get the 1.8 2.0 2.8 and 1.9 in the smaller cars (with the exclusion of the 3.2 in the R32 and W8 in the passat etc..).

posted by  thunderbird1100

check ur local dealership :P

posted by  Inygknok

Okay... the concept of inline, v, and boxer engines are simple to me... but can someone explain the W engine layout as well as others so long as it isnt too confusing...im not stupid though so it musn't be idiot proof.

posted by  VMJYogi

oh yes. also if u want to explain the rotary engine for me (that is one that im very interested in). and the flat/boxer/H/horisontally opposed engine are all the same right? (just to make sure). Im also guessing that the W engine is like two v engines placed next to each other?

posted by  VMJYogi

Nope, no V5's here in the U.S. according to VW's website.

posted by  thunderbird1100

It doesn't explain much but it's a nice vid about W12 engines.
Go here:
http://www.bugatti-cars.de/bugatti/index.html
Then press the following:Home/Model/Veyron 16.4/Engineering/Engine
Then, "Legends from 1001 HP" and "360 View" and "Tech Data" should appear on the bottom.

For the rotory engine: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/rotary-engine.htm

posted by  zipper

ok, W engines. the W engines are actually based on the VR6 concept. its technically 2 V8 engines one on top of the other. just imagine one V8 engine at, for example, 80 degrees, and another one right underneath it, hugging it tightly and sharing the same heads and the same one block, but at 90 degrees. the cylinders of the bottom V8 engine would come out right next to the top one's cylinders, but on the outside section. meaning, the cylinders on the left head of the engine, the one with 90 degrees with be at the left (outside) an dthe one with 80 degrees will be on the right (inside). click on the pictures below to see how the cylinder heads look like.


as for the rotary, its basically just a triangle shaped object called a rotor spinning around in circles, both in an orbital manner and rotational manner (like Earth does around the sun and on its axis) inside a big oval-like shaped place called the housing.

there are some pics below with rotary engines in it. i also put some gifs since animations always work so much better for explanations.

click here (http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/RE101.html) to have a look at a very good site with extremely well explanations and more animations.

posted by  Inygknok

Ford had a V4 in the 70's they made throusands of them, not very nice engines though.

went in cortina, capri, zepher, granada

theres the electric hybrid honda insight

Smart do a flat 3 diesel.

posted by  cinqyg

wat company is Smart? (someone will probably give a smartassed answer before i really get told who they are)

posted by  Inygknok

There a division of daimler chyrsler. They make small city cars, there so short that you can park them perpendicular to the curb

posted by  cinqyg

Smart was founded by DaimlerChrysler in the late nineties for producing a micro class car at the european market (the first was a two seater). It was developed in California by Harald Belker. :smoke:

Smart Official Website (http://www.thesmart.co.uk/)

posted by  lutz

Volvo's 5cylinder engine is Inline and not in a vee :thumbs: ...I belive :thumbs:

posted by  Cliffy

yea, Volvo's 5 cylinder is an inline. 4 companies currently use that type of inline engine, but i cant remember them all. i believe 2 of them were Volvo and Audi.

posted by  Inygknok

Chevy/GMC use an Inline 5 in the Colorado/Canyon

posted by  moostang104314

This is a nice thread why did you guys let it die out.

Dammit, I had a dream I created a W12 engine(although it was far more complex than cramming the angles of one v6 an stuffing it beween the the intakes on another v6. I should have patented my idea I'd be filthy rich.

Umm this V4 and V5 fascinate me anyone have any pics. I'm far to lazy to search.

posted by  DSMer

MKIV Golf engine bay shot with its V5 engine. looks alot like a VR6.
http://www.volkswagen.org/pics/vw-v5.gif

http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/lancia/58/gallery/volkswagen/golf_v5 .jpg


thats everything i could find for a while regarding pictures on the V5.


here is V4 inside its cozy home.
http://www.virtualgaz.co.uk/update%20jun03/cotm/fulvia2.jpg



ill keep searching for more later on. kinda hard to find these.

posted by  Inygknok

I'm going to post here the direct animations just for those who wish to see quick animations of some of the engines.


In-line or Straight
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-inline-4.gif


Vee
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-v-6.gif


H, Horizontally-Opposed, Flat, or Boxer
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/engine-flat-4.gif


Wankel Rotary
http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/images/RE101/REanim.gif



Sorry about not having animations on the W and other engines, but they are so rare that it's extremely hard to find animations that can be linked to.

Animations are all thanks to the courtesy of howstuffworks.com and rotaryengineillustrated.com

posted by  Inygknok

I believe that a 2004 Volvo S60(R) haver 5 cylinder engines in them. I think its V5 It may be Inline 5

posted by  DSMer

I'm pretty sure it's Inline 5. My friend's mom has an S80 or something. I looked under the hood. I'm pretty sure I remember it being an inline 5.

posted by  abless

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