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Old 03-15-2005, 01:42 AM   #46
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hmmm ....why argue?
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Old 03-15-2005, 05:46 AM   #47
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People putting down others for wanting to do something that's a challenge are simply ridiculous.

Yeah, I apologize for that... The times that they're running is impressive, and my hat's off to these guys!!! Hooking the fronts up with all the weight transfer to the rear is hard to pull off, and they've got it down!!!
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Old 03-15-2005, 06:10 AM   #48
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Thank you ChrisV for making some very important points... My original idea was to simply refute some of Greaser's points, and hopefully open his mind a little...

Unfortunately, when I started posting, he was still online, and just when I'd start to correct him on one point, he'd post another misinformed gem, like the Chevy Cobra...

I just don't understand this guy... I grew up in a muscle car family, and now I own an rx7 GTU, after owning an mr2, CRX Si and a Miata...

I just happen to like small-bore cars, but at the same time I'd love to have a nice 66 Chevelle SS. Don't understand his hatred of anyone who doesn't like what HE likes... Hell, most of the other poster's DO appreciate muscle cars, but that doesn't matter to him...

Unfortunately, I think his problems are deeper-rooted than just cars... My cars are my therapy, but I think this guy needs a Thorazine Big-Gulp!!!
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Old 03-15-2005, 07:55 AM   #49
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:21 PM   #50
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i look at it like this...most of us started out working with muscle cars. i started with a 74 Buick Apollo with a 350 4 bolt. so i'm just as much into muscle cars as imports. just you can do so much more with an import in my eyes. yes the cost are more expensive but that is what makes it fun. btw did anyone else hear that Chevrolet is suposed to be bring back the camaro? seen a concept for it. they trying to do what ford did with the stang and make the camaros look like a 69 ss.
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Old 03-15-2005, 03:33 PM   #51
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i look at it like this...most of us started out working with muscle cars. i started with a 74 Buick Apollo with a 350 4 bolt. so i'm just as much into muscle cars as imports. just you can do so much more with an import in my eyes. yes the cost are more expensive but that is what makes it fun. btw did anyone else hear that Chevrolet is suposed to be bring back the camaro? seen a concept for it. they trying to do what ford did with the stang and make the camaros look like a 69 ss.

I agree I stated out with a 1969 Torino, I own a vette now. I don't care what your driving, isn't it about all comers enjoying, modifiying, and racing cars/trucks. We all have one thing in common, no matter how fast you think your car is there's alway's somebody faster !!! Greaseball is way outta line.
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Old 03-16-2005, 02:06 AM   #52
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Movies like the fast and the furios series were made to dawn apon imports as they are so great.
The fast and the furios.... I loved that one. And it was made to "dawn apon imports as they are so great". Pardon me? I'm sure you did....>>>
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Nope, typed it all myself to make the message clear to yall.
<<<...However, despite your inherent posting prowess achieved at 15 posts, you can't type for shit. And even if you could, you have no coherent thoughts to type.

So how's about this- if you hate Asian Imports, then why do you post in the ASIAN IMPORTS section? If you dislike people who do to their car what they want, then why do you post in the section that caters more to their area of interest? So please. Don't just post to stir up shit. Because when you open your mouth, as we have just seen, you officially lose even with your best vipers and all that other bullshit. So crawl back under whatever God-forsaken rock you came from, and come back when The Fast and the Furios has dawned apon imports as they are so great. Because maybe then we will know what the f*ck you are trying to say.
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Old 03-16-2005, 04:22 AM   #53
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you gotta think

you gotta think...Tuners (smaller enginged cars) were NOT made for speed. They were made for effiecency. Some smart guy thought hey we don't really need all these really fast but gas gusseling cars i'll make a smaller one which can go pretty fast but more effeicent for the enviroment and on gas mileage. Thats also why they are coming out with the new hybirds and crap becuase its not about speed and shit its about saveing the ****ing planet we live on.

I'm no hippy but seriously they are 2 different things tuners and muscle cars. One was an improvment on the other to increase mileage and dangerous emmsions and give up a bit of power. So really this has been pretty stupid. Get ur facts straight MUSCLE IS FOR MUSCLE TUNERS WERE AN IMPROVEMENT FOR EFFICENTCY NOT MUSCLE AND NOW THE HYBIRD IS AN IMPROVMENT FOR EFFIENTCEY NOT POWER TO SAVE OUR PLANET FOR BEING BACKED BY THE SUN
I still like both car types its just this shit is pretty stupid and therefore doesn't give the right for you rices (not all tuners) to shit on muscle cars cause ur cars were made to go ****ing slower retards.

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Old 03-16-2005, 04:50 AM   #54
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Haha, you think they care about the environnement? Yah right. Would you care if you were bringing in millions of dollars? Would you be willing to cut your profeits in half to save such a little portion of the environnement? No.

Everybody needs to realize that every company is in for it for the money. No matter what you want to believe, that's what every company wants. There would be no company if all they cared about was this planet.

They also aren't built for efficiency in a sense. They're built so people can afford them. There's no money if nobody can afford them. So basically the less money you have, the more efficient your vehicle is going to be, and the more money you have, the nicer, less efficient vehicle you're going to buy. Take the cavalier for instence, it's cheap, about 16,000, so most people can afford one, gets good mileage and all that jazz, but no power. Now, take a PT Cruiser for instence, middle class car, bigger car, no more power, fancier car but gets worse mileage due to its size. So economy just comes with what you can afford. They aren't exactly trying to make them more economic, they're making them as cheap as they can which makes them more economic.

On the same not, they aren't even concentrated on economy, they're concentrated on power. They're trying to get the most power from a small motor, meaning they have to create a better burn in some way. Which increases economy at the same time. So they're inter-linked I guess you could say.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:31 AM   #55
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not really much cheaper, but still great cars

ok, i do agree that they are better on saving gas. But how is a damn 05 honda accord going to cost the same if not more than a GTO? you have your kia's and hyundai's that are reasonable, but nissan, honda and all other popular companies are WAY over priced, 30+ thousand for a friggin' altima? I love nissans, but their prices are not that affordable. gas is a little better than a bigger engine car, but the insurance and payments kick you in the ass. for instance, my girl owned a 95 Prelude. i believe the best mileage i ever calculated was around 23 mpg on the road. My 88 T/A gets 21 on the road. WTF? the prelude was in great shape too. SOHC 5 spd honda gets 2 mpg better than Trans am? hmm, i think that you get good cars and bad cars, and that everyone is entitled to say what they want. Opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one. imports are cool, domestic, hell, i like em all. thats just me though. but yeah, most imports are great, long lasting and efficient cars. Those new models can stay on the lot though.
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Old 03-16-2005, 05:39 AM   #56
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my bad

most of them are decent on gas mileage. but yeah, just leave the little guy alone for god sakes...these rice haters need to pick on someone their own size, i mean they probably can't, and I guess it makes them feel better about their slow cars to hate on something half the size. ehh, back off losers.
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Old 03-16-2005, 06:44 AM   #57
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where i work my boss has a mustang (dont know what type) its great and all but i still like imports better. i would rather choose a road that has millions of hairpins and S turns than just a straight highway. now if u try a 800hp+ (not sure about that though) muscle car on a track like that, depending on the car most of the time a euro or a jap car will probably win. but if its a drag race muscle cars will kick ass and i know that from experience. now dont be so close minded and realise there is a bigger world out there...past american muscle
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:04 AM   #58
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where i work my boss has a mustang (dont know what type) its great and all but i still like imports better. i would rather choose a road that has millions of hairpins and S turns than just a straight highway. now if u try a 800hp+ (not sure about that though) muscle car on a track like that, depending on the car most of the time a euro or a jap car will probably win. but if its a drag race muscle cars will kick ass and i know that from experience. now dont be so close minded and realise there is a bigger world out there...past american muscle

Haha, no american muscle car makes 800hp, I don't know of a factory car that makes that much. Period. Maybe the Maclearen F1 since it is an indy car.. so it'll make about 800hp but that's all I can think of.

Not all amercan muscle cars are built for a straight line, GTO is a good example of that.

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Opinions are like assholes, everybody has got one. imports are cool, domestic, hell, i like em all.

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these rice haters need to pick on someone their own size, i mean they probably can't, and I guess it makes them feel better about their slow cars to hate on something half the size. ehh, back off losers.

Just to tell you, you did NOT contradict yourself there or make yourself look biased or anything
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Old 03-16-2005, 07:32 AM   #59
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Haha, no american muscle car makes 800hp, I don't know of a factory car that makes that much. Period. Maybe the Maclearen F1 since it is an indy car.. so it'll make about 800hp but that's all I can think of.

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Did he say factory, or did I miss something?

I don't think the McLaren has 800+. More like 650 I think.
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:20 PM   #60
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I'll say this people. I sat and read the entire thread right now and it took about 25 minutes to do so. I try not to type about shit that i don't know cause in reality i dont know much about cars. I'm not that big of an enthusiast. I just say what i can, and sometimes i'm wrong but i'm not scared to admit it. But i'd rather not know shit about cars and be able to appreciate everything from American to European to Japanese, than know a shitload about one specific type of car and talk garbage about everything else. If you wanna talk shit about imports then talk that shit to an import enthusiast. With all the small block 353' ladedaa you must know a little more than something about American cars. So why don't you talk shit to someone who knows a little more than something about imports, not kids you see on the streets with duct tape holding up their wings cause they obviously don't know very much about imports. You see people who as kids love cars and get into them as they grow when the guy is 40years old he finally finishes on his greatest project and starts up his 730whp Chevy, hears the rumble and sits there in pride. I think car restoration is one of the best things of th car world and it's great for a man to do that. Now imagine the same picture except the car is replaced with a 240sx. New paint job, twin turbo, gleaming chrome another thing of beauty that took years to accomplish. bulletproof engine, and a daily driver. Are you gonna tell that guy that his hard work is just a piece of shit, cause a real car lover will sit there and appreciate both.


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